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It's a shift to partisan totalism. If you look at the policies of the Biden admin, almost all of their bills caused capital outflows of red areas, professions

It's a shift to partisan totalism. If you look at the policies of the Biden admin, almost all of their bills caused capital outflows of red areas, professions and demographics and into blue areas, professions, and demographics. The new logic of american politics is to not bother courting those who wont vote for you and instead seek to minimize their raw numbers(population), vote impact (dilution), wealth (jobs), and recruitment (deplatforming). The "culture war" is built on two fundamentally opposed, zero-sum worldviews and they're starting to realize that.

rektide 3y ago
I don't think that's true at all & I would greatly welcome some collected evidence to change my mind. I did some of my own searching to try to find evidence for your assertions & haven't turned up anything. Looking at intra-state policies shows a malice & cruelty within Red states, to defund & desupport public institutions. Texas ending professorial tenure there-by effectively ending the state's public colleges viability, the bitter long resistance to Obamacare & public pools, poor support for public transit, hostile & useless unemployment insurance programs; I dunno it just seems like the states that are red have extremist anti-human policies. That doesn't affect your statement that the national level has seen outflows from red states. I don't know of any evidence that that is the case. I think it's somewhat common & known knowledge that red states tend to receive radically disproportionate shares of federal funding in general. Some of this is just logistics, that red states are less populated generally, and require more support to maintain services like roads, power, etc cetera. I think a lot of people want everyone in America to succeed. A lot of people want inclusive America, that succeeds & tries & works together to better the economic, spiritual, & libertous nature of our nation. I don't think the zero sum view represents both sides at all. Progressive agenda is not to take. It's to help those in need. But that hand keeps being snipped at & chewed on, by the red states needing the most assistance often. States unwilling to try to govern.
- RelativeDelta 3y ago
  Most of your reply is commentary, and I will ignore it as it is tangential to my point. I'm not going to bat for blue team or red team here, I'm pointing out that we've (likely) entered an inevitable slide into the tactics of totalism. Unity is getting harder, more people have a solidified allegiance and conversions are becoming less common even among independents. When you lose the ability to sway a shrinking middle ground your tactics adapt accordingly. This aside, you are asking for proof of capital outflow from red demos and into blue demos under the Biden admin. I can provide that here: [0 - breakdown of federal 2020 budget by sector] https://www.investopedia.com/comparing-the-economic-plans-of-trump-and-biden-4843240 https://www.investopedia.com/comparing-the-economic-plans-of... [1 - breakdown of professional catagories by political allignment] https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/most-partisan-industries https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/most-partisan... Observe how the sectors that will receive the vast majority of new blue spending (green energy, local news, unions, government workers, regs agencies, et.c) support team blue. Observe how the sectors most targeted with new taxes (natural resource extraction, corporate news, finance, etc.) are red supporters. Observe how welfare spending is concentrated/directed to urban environments who vote blue. Observe how new ballot harvesting regulations offer structural advantage to dense areas (cities) and cities vote blue. I'm not saying It's good, it will lead to war eventually, but it is the most effective strategy when the likelihood of 'winning people over' drops. It's power politics.

rektide 3y ago

I don't think that's true at all & I would greatly welcome some collected evidence to change my mind. I did some of my own searching to try to find evidence for your assertions & haven't turned up anything. Looking at intra-state policies shows a malice & cruelty within Red states, to defund & desupport public institutions. Texas ending professorial tenure there-by effectively ending the state's public colleges viability, the bitter long resistance to Obamacare & public pools, poor support for public transit, hostile & useless unemployment insurance programs; I dunno it just seems like the states that are red have extremist anti-human policies. That doesn't affect your statement that the national level has seen outflows from red states. I don't know of any evidence that that is the case. I think it's somewhat common & known knowledge that red states tend to receive radically disproportionate shares of federal funding in general. Some of this is just logistics, that red states are less populated generally, and require more support to maintain services like roads, power, etc cetera. I think a lot of people want everyone in America to succeed. A lot of people want inclusive America, that succeeds & tries & works together to better the economic, spiritual, & libertous nature of our nation. I don't think the zero sum view represents both sides at all. Progressive agenda is not to take. It's to help those in need. But that hand keeps being snipped at & chewed on, by the red states needing the most assistance often. States unwilling to try to govern.

RelativeDelta 3y ago
Most of your reply is commentary, and I will ignore it as it is tangential to my point. I'm not going to bat for blue team or red team here, I'm pointing out that we've (likely) entered an inevitable slide into the tactics of totalism. Unity is getting harder, more people have a solidified allegiance and conversions are becoming less common even among independents. When you lose the ability to sway a shrinking middle ground your tactics adapt accordingly. This aside, you are asking for proof of capital outflow from red demos and into blue demos under the Biden admin. I can provide that here: [0 - breakdown of federal 2020 budget by sector] https://www.investopedia.com/comparing-the-economic-plans-of-trump-and-biden-4843240 https://www.investopedia.com/comparing-the-economic-plans-of... [1 - breakdown of professional catagories by political allignment] https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/most-partisan-industries https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/most-partisan... Observe how the sectors that will receive the vast majority of new blue spending (green energy, local news, unions, government workers, regs agencies, et.c) support team blue. Observe how the sectors most targeted with new taxes (natural resource extraction, corporate news, finance, etc.) are red supporters. Observe how welfare spending is concentrated/directed to urban environments who vote blue. Observe how new ballot harvesting regulations offer structural advantage to dense areas (cities) and cities vote blue. I'm not saying It's good, it will lead to war eventually, but it is the most effective strategy when the likelihood of 'winning people over' drops. It's power politics.