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this is good timing, as we're witnessing in real time how reddit is ending right now :)

by werid 3y ago

turzmo 3y ago
How is that?
- exsf0859 3y ago
  Reddit recently announced changes to their APIs pricing and features that will probably lead to the abandonment of most third-party Reddit clients. Users of those clients are upset. https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_few_calls_with_reddit_today_about_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_fe...
  - turzmo 3y ago
    Gotcha, thanks
  - LegitShady 3y ago
    but lets say they're upset enough to leave - where will they go en masse that replaces reddit?
    - ant6n 3y ago
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    - exsf0859 3y ago
      I doubt they'll go anywhere en masse. They'll probably just grudgingly use the official clients. Possibly with browser plugins to customize the UI.
    - KoftaBob 3y ago
      Maybe I'll build a link sharing/discussion site like Reddit but on Nostr...hmm
    - local_crmdgeon 3y ago
      TikTok is eating the world. It's already completely consumed instagram.
      - LegitShady 3y ago
        tiktok does not fulfill the same role reddit does. People can already choose to go on tiktok if they want - it doesn't replace reddit in any way.
  - bink 3y ago
    Can someone provide a tl;dr that specifically explains why this is going to harm the site? I know there were some communications problems with third party clients, but from my reading of the announcement it just sounds like they're going to start enforcing their previously documented but unenforced API rate limits on free accounts and they're providing a service to charge for bulk access. What else is changing that has everyone upset? The developers commenting from the big clients such as Apollo didn't seem to provide any info on if/how their clients would be broken. I didn't even see any comments suggesting the clients would break. It's mostly just anger about the opacity of the announcement. I understand people being wary, especially in light of how Twitter changed their API years ago, but I'd love some more concrete info and specific complaints about this change in particular.
doodlebugging 3y ago
I'm winding down my participation. It's been a fun ride for the most part but it is really easy to get depressed reading a lot of stuff that gets posted. Discussions tend to deteriorate quickly and quality comments with sources get buried. That isn't how it all started. I'll shut down my last account soon after overwriting and deleting all the posts. It's fitting that Imgur is also gonna scratch all the content they have from people who never made Imgur accounts. I have a lot of tutorials, marked-up photos, etc that I used to help people thru issues on some of those niche forums involving home and auto repairs. It's good to know all that will be gone. I'll be down to one site for online engagement and news.
LegitShady 3y ago
How is reddit ending? In general it seems they waited for enough critical mass before instituting all the content policies that would kill smaller sites. And while digg's implosion had reddit as an alternative, in 2023 who is the alternative to reddit?
- werid 3y ago
  the critical mass might have to do without power-users (sucks for all the subreddits people go to for technical help!) and moderators, as the api changes affect tools and apps mods use a lot. as for implosion, it might be more of a twitter thing, slowly people will get enough and leave. sometimes you don't need a new destination, but you just stop by the site anymore.
- criddell 3y ago
  > in 2023 who is the alternative to reddit? I think the rapid decline of Twitter and the sputter of Mastodon indicates that a lot of us have realized that simply removing social media from our lives and not replacing it with anything feels pretty good. A few years ago I used to visit Reddit a couple times every week. These days I only end up there if a google search sends me there.
  - LegitShady 3y ago
    I don't think twitter has anything to do with reddit -they don't exist in the same niche in social media. The sputter of mastadon was because the decline of twitter was largely short term outrage. I hear every day on hackernews that twitter is failing and I'm not sure that's true. Twitter and reddit exist because there is a market for those types of social media experience. If even 50k computer science specialized people stop visiting reddit and twitter I don't think that matters to those sites overall traffic levels. If you already aren't visiting twitter or reddit than you aren't really interested in the alternative for them, are you? Since you're already rejecting those experiences. You aren't the target audience, you're just imagining everyone is like you, when all evidence seems to go the other way. So again, lets say people want an alternative platform to twitter, they could go to substack maybe. but whats the alternative to reddit? Discord? I don't think so.
faeriechangling 3y ago
I see no evidence Reddit is dying really.

this is good timing, as we're witnessing in real time how reddit is ending right now :)

by werid 3y ago

this is good timing, as we're witnessing in real time how reddit is ending right now :)

turzmo 3y ago

How is that?

exsf0859 3y ago
Reddit recently announced changes to their APIs pricing and features that will probably lead to the abandonment of most third-party Reddit clients. Users of those clients are upset. https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_few_calls_with_reddit_today_about_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_fe...
- turzmo 3y ago
  Gotcha, thanks
- LegitShady 3y ago
  but lets say they're upset enough to leave - where will they go en masse that replaces reddit?
  - ant6n 3y ago
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    - LegitShady 3y ago
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      - primax 3y ago
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        LegitShady 3y ago
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  - exsf0859 3y ago
    I doubt they'll go anywhere en masse. They'll probably just grudgingly use the official clients. Possibly with browser plugins to customize the UI.
  - KoftaBob 3y ago
    Maybe I'll build a link sharing/discussion site like Reddit but on Nostr...hmm
  - local_crmdgeon 3y ago
    TikTok is eating the world. It's already completely consumed instagram.
    - LegitShady 3y ago
      tiktok does not fulfill the same role reddit does. People can already choose to go on tiktok if they want - it doesn't replace reddit in any way.
- bink 3y ago
  Can someone provide a tl;dr that specifically explains why this is going to harm the site? I know there were some communications problems with third party clients, but from my reading of the announcement it just sounds like they're going to start enforcing their previously documented but unenforced API rate limits on free accounts and they're providing a service to charge for bulk access. What else is changing that has everyone upset? The developers commenting from the big clients such as Apollo didn't seem to provide any info on if/how their clients would be broken. I didn't even see any comments suggesting the clients would break. It's mostly just anger about the opacity of the announcement. I understand people being wary, especially in light of how Twitter changed their API years ago, but I'd love some more concrete info and specific complaints about this change in particular.

doodlebugging 3y ago

I'm winding down my participation. It's been a fun ride for the most part but it is really easy to get depressed reading a lot of stuff that gets posted. Discussions tend to deteriorate quickly and quality comments with sources get buried. That isn't how it all started. I'll shut down my last account soon after overwriting and deleting all the posts. It's fitting that Imgur is also gonna scratch all the content they have from people who never made Imgur accounts. I have a lot of tutorials, marked-up photos, etc that I used to help people thru issues on some of those niche forums involving home and auto repairs. It's good to know all that will be gone. I'll be down to one site for online engagement and news.

LegitShady 3y ago

How is reddit ending? In general it seems they waited for enough critical mass before instituting all the content policies that would kill smaller sites. And while digg's implosion had reddit as an alternative, in 2023 who is the alternative to reddit?

werid 3y ago
the critical mass might have to do without power-users (sucks for all the subreddits people go to for technical help!) and moderators, as the api changes affect tools and apps mods use a lot. as for implosion, it might be more of a twitter thing, slowly people will get enough and leave. sometimes you don't need a new destination, but you just stop by the site anymore.
criddell 3y ago
> in 2023 who is the alternative to reddit? I think the rapid decline of Twitter and the sputter of Mastodon indicates that a lot of us have realized that simply removing social media from our lives and not replacing it with anything feels pretty good. A few years ago I used to visit Reddit a couple times every week. These days I only end up there if a google search sends me there.
- LegitShady 3y ago
  I don't think twitter has anything to do with reddit -they don't exist in the same niche in social media. The sputter of mastadon was because the decline of twitter was largely short term outrage. I hear every day on hackernews that twitter is failing and I'm not sure that's true. Twitter and reddit exist because there is a market for those types of social media experience. If even 50k computer science specialized people stop visiting reddit and twitter I don't think that matters to those sites overall traffic levels. If you already aren't visiting twitter or reddit than you aren't really interested in the alternative for them, are you? Since you're already rejecting those experiences. You aren't the target audience, you're just imagining everyone is like you, when all evidence seems to go the other way. So again, lets say people want an alternative platform to twitter, they could go to substack maybe. but whats the alternative to reddit? Discord? I don't think so.

faeriechangling 3y ago

I see no evidence Reddit is dying really.