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I moved from west Los Angeles (Mar Vista near Culver City) to Dublin and my rent is significantly higher in Dublin (renting a new-ish build 2br 800 sq ft near t

I moved from west Los Angeles (Mar Vista near Culver City) to Dublin and my rent is significantly higher in Dublin (renting a new-ish build 2br 800 sq ft near the Canal, city center). Dublin's a lovely city -- but it's a lovely city of half a million people in a country of 5 million, less than half greater Los Angeles county. London, Tokyo, New York, Los Angeles are major cities of the world. Dublin is a regional city. It's absurd. I never thought I'd live somewhere _more_ expensive than LA.

reillyse 3y ago
The "metro area" is 1,270,000 so a lot more than the "city" count and I imagine if you added in the neighboring areas that are part of the commuter belt that would increase even more (e.g. Dublin county itself has 1.388 million not counting Meath, Kildare, Wicklow etc ).
- wiredfool 3y ago
  Ireland is a lot like Washington State, in size and population, and the size profile of the cities. (though Washington has more real wilderness, and Ireland has a lot more small farm rural, but Seattle and Dublin occupy very similar weights in the regions)
  - reillyse 3y ago
    I'm not following your analogy at all. Ireland is 32k square miles, Washington state is 72k square miles. Washington State has about 16% more people with about 2.25 times the land area.
    - Izikiel43 3y ago
      There is a biiig mountain range in the middle of the state
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    Washington state is the third most populous state west of the Mississippi (being beat by only Texas and California), and probably has more farmland than Ireland, though it depends on what you mean by small farm.
    - reillyse 3y ago
      I think the biggest issue I have with the comparison is the density. Ireland is a relatively densely populated country. Rural land is very densely populated, there is no section of the country that isn't spoken for. This is because unlike large parts of the US, agricultural land is highly productive without irrigation. This results in agricultural land being very expensive. In the US agricultural land can be expensive, but only because of it's water. Without water it's extremely cheap. This land pressure results in land across the entire Country being expensive. In the US, there is a lot of relatively empty/undeveloped land on which to build houses and cities. This should reduce the price of housing. - in contrast to rural Ireland, urban Ireland is not very dense relative to other cities in Europe. Dublin has a height restriction on buildings (which may be being reconsidered) so there isn't much of the denser building that you get in cities like Paris (which has a lot of 5-6 story buildings which really ramp up the population density. Irish cities are instead rows of very tightly packed suburban homes - often terraced or semi-detached (sharing a side wall with a neighbor) with about 6-10 homes per acre.
- 1letterunixname 3y ago
  Austin sized :)

reillyse 3y ago

The "metro area" is 1,270,000 so a lot more than the "city" count and I imagine if you added in the neighboring areas that are part of the commuter belt that would increase even more (e.g. Dublin county itself has 1.388 million not counting Meath, Kildare, Wicklow etc ).

wiredfool 3y ago
Ireland is a lot like Washington State, in size and population, and the size profile of the cities. (though Washington has more real wilderness, and Ireland has a lot more small farm rural, but Seattle and Dublin occupy very similar weights in the regions)
- reillyse 3y ago
  I'm not following your analogy at all. Ireland is 32k square miles, Washington state is 72k square miles. Washington State has about 16% more people with about 2.25 times the land area.
  - Izikiel43 3y ago
    There is a biiig mountain range in the middle of the state
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  Washington state is the third most populous state west of the Mississippi (being beat by only Texas and California), and probably has more farmland than Ireland, though it depends on what you mean by small farm.
  - reillyse 3y ago
    I think the biggest issue I have with the comparison is the density. Ireland is a relatively densely populated country. Rural land is very densely populated, there is no section of the country that isn't spoken for. This is because unlike large parts of the US, agricultural land is highly productive without irrigation. This results in agricultural land being very expensive. In the US agricultural land can be expensive, but only because of it's water. Without water it's extremely cheap. This land pressure results in land across the entire Country being expensive. In the US, there is a lot of relatively empty/undeveloped land on which to build houses and cities. This should reduce the price of housing. - in contrast to rural Ireland, urban Ireland is not very dense relative to other cities in Europe. Dublin has a height restriction on buildings (which may be being reconsidered) so there isn't much of the denser building that you get in cities like Paris (which has a lot of 5-6 story buildings which really ramp up the population density. Irish cities are instead rows of very tightly packed suburban homes - often terraced or semi-detached (sharing a side wall with a neighbor) with about 6-10 homes per acre.
1letterunixname 3y ago
Austin sized :)