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Good for her. Before her there were people like Lee Smolin. They eventually get cancelled by the physics community, like short sellers in investment, no one wan
by garbagecoder 3y ago
Good for her. Before her there were people like Lee Smolin. They eventually get cancelled by the physics community, like short sellers in investment, no one wants to hear the sad trumpet but the "market" doesn't function without skeptics.
Theoretical discoveries are good, but some ego, some hype for funding, and some clickbaiting have made reporting on science even from the better sources like Quanta too focused on finding aliens and the grand unification or commercial fusion or whatever at least just by what gets written and posted, it seems like that.
- bigbillheck 3y agoI thought any trouble Lee Smolin got in was because of Epstein.
- vitehozonage 3y ago>people like Lee Smolin. They eventually get cancelled by the physics community Could you tell me more about this or lead me where to read about it? All I know of him is that I came across some of his talks/interviews on youtube and found them incredibly refreshing. I am a physics graduate that left entirely dissatisfied and feel he's the lecturer that I wish I could have had. Is he viewed as a crackpot?
- leephillips 3y agoIt’s news to me, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true. Maybe “people like” Smolin but not Smolin. I mean, he has a very good job, and has recently published books and papers, and interviews. I’m not sure I even understand what “cancelled by the physics community” would mean. Journal editors have secret instructions to throw out your manuscripts instead of sending them out for review?
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- garbagecoder 3y agoSmolin isn't viewed as a crackpot, but anyone who brings up foundational issues, or who tries to moderate the conclusions drawn from research gets labeled a certain way, especially if the criticism is directed "outside." Sabine is getting too famous to not ultimately get resentment. Apparently, something in my comment there really made a lot of people mad (or one person with several accounts), and I'm unsure why. I would love someone to explain to me how they think science should function without skeptics. Especially in the clickbait era.
- consilient 3y ago> I would love someone to explain to me how they think science should function without skeptics. No one thinks this. People dislike Hossenfelder and Smolin because they're peddling their own hot takes as established fact to a lay audience utterly unequipped to tell the difference.
- garbagecoder 3y ago"No one thinks this" YOU don't think this, but there are clearly people out there who don't want to hear their wild speculation isn't real. It's human nature.
- vitehozonage 3y agoI don't understand why you're downvoted, I appreciate your response to my question
- gowld 3y agoSmolin was not "cancelled". He runs a prestigious institute (Perimeter) and has published several books and papers since his 2006 polemic "The Trouble with Physics" http://leesmolin.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/cv_Lee-Smolin-July-2017.pdf http://leesmolin.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/cv_Lee-Smoli...
- garbagecoder 3y agoIt was just a freakin' expression. I didn't think it would trigger 5000000000 reply guys.