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The cognitive dissonance here is becoming farcical quickly. Careful, people really don't like it when you point it out! I was really hoping the grandparent was

The cognitive dissonance here is becoming farcical quickly. Careful, people really don't like it when you point it out! I was really hoping the grandparent was being tongue-in-cheek but, the lie-to-myself kind of hope.

__pache__ 3y ago
I'm confused, what's your point? It's a "win" that this killing was by a certain person? Has nothing to do with shit on the streets, etc. etc.
- fghsqwads 3y ago
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- anigbrowl 3y ago
  No, it's a win that poor people (most of whom are not violent criminals) are not being unfairly proxy-blamed for this murder any more.
  - __pache__ 3y ago
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    - jakelazaroff 3y ago
      Here's how the cycle works. We decide a certain group of people ("literally the dregs [sic] of society") causes most of our problems. Then we pass laws targeting that group, and enforce the laws most strictly against against that group — and surprise, that group ends up getting caught breaking the law most often! Then we use that to drum up further public sentiment against that group. Rinse, repeat. Crime is a social construct. We choose what's illegal and what's not. We enforce some of the laws, against some of the people, some of the time. Saying that a certain group commits the vast majority of crimes is meaningless without additional context. And if your additional context is that they're "literally the dregs of society", you're not being serious — you just have an axe to grind.
      - __pache__ 3y ago
        Hard disagree, people are responsible for themselves. Sure society can suck, but ultimately rising out of that is your problem. See: like, everyone's history? > Saying that a certain group commits the vast majority of crimes is meaningless without additional context. are there poor people who totally deserve it? is it the majority of them?

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The cognitive dissonance here is becoming farcical quickly. Careful, people really don't like it when you point it out! I was really hoping the grandparent was

by soundsabout 3y ago

__pache__ 3y ago
I'm confused, what's your point? It's a "win" that this killing was by a certain person? Has nothing to do with shit on the streets, etc. etc.
- fghsqwads 3y ago
  [flagged]
- anigbrowl 3y ago
  No, it's a win that poor people (most of whom are not violent criminals) are not being unfairly proxy-blamed for this murder any more.
  - __pache__ 3y ago
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    - jakelazaroff 3y ago
      Here's how the cycle works. We decide a certain group of people ("literally the dregs [sic] of society") causes most of our problems. Then we pass laws targeting that group, and enforce the laws most strictly against against that group — and surprise, that group ends up getting caught breaking the law most often! Then we use that to drum up further public sentiment against that group. Rinse, repeat. Crime is a social construct. We choose what's illegal and what's not. We enforce some of the laws, against some of the people, some of the time. Saying that a certain group commits the vast majority of crimes is meaningless without additional context. And if your additional context is that they're "literally the dregs of society", you're not being serious — you just have an axe to grind.
      - __pache__ 3y ago
        Hard disagree, people are responsible for themselves. Sure society can suck, but ultimately rising out of that is your problem. See: like, everyone's history? > Saying that a certain group commits the vast majority of crimes is meaningless without additional context. are there poor people who totally deserve it? is it the majority of them?