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> All social media algo timelines have an editorial voice. Sorry, that's a bullshit excuse. Russia's invasion of Ukraine was hardcoded to be downranked like DM

> All social media algo timelines have an editorial voice. Sorry, that's a bullshit excuse. Russia's invasion of Ukraine was hardcoded to be downranked like DMCA violations and high toxicity content. This has zero do to with "editorial voice" or other bullshit excuse. This was a blatant attempt to smuther any reference on what Russia is doing to Ukraine.

whimsicalism 3y ago
I was simply responding to the comment that was made.
pastacacioepepe 3y ago
You have basically all traditional and social media pushing pointless and rushed news about Ukraine, a good part of which turn out to be incorrect later in time. Can we at least have one "safe space" where we don't have to constantly hear about death and glorification of weapons? Especially since we've never talked about Yemen or Syria with the same intensity.
- matthewdgreen 3y ago
  I heard plenty about what was happening in Syria, much of which also involved untargeted Russian brutality waged against civilians. Happy to link you to some of the articles about “barrel bombs” if you don’t remember them.
  - whimsicalism 3y ago
    I followed the Syrian war heavily and the suggestion that its coverage was comparable to the coverage Ukraine got is not true and I think we all know it is not true.
    - matthewdgreen 3y ago
      I think we can both agree that the heavy degree of reporting in Ukraine is a good thing.
      - pastacacioepepe 3y ago
        This must be the peak passive aggressive. Dare to explain why that is a good thing?
  - pastacacioepepe 3y ago
    You have to actively go look for Syria (or Yemen) news, while Ukraine news come looking for you. I don't get why you feel the need to get on the offensive about Russia. The only case I'm making is that being constantly subjected to rushed war news pieces isn't of any use except the instigation of primal/emotional reactions. The most trustworthy information will be disclosed after the war is over anyway, when the need for propaganda diminishes.
    - matthewdgreen 3y ago
      I thought the OP was complaining that the horrors in Syria weren't reported enough. From your post I gather that the objection is there is too much reporting on the horrors of what is happening in Ukraine, and you'd prefer to use the example of Syria to justify less reporting on things like, for example, the thousands of Ukrainian children that Russia is holding in camps and not returning to their parents [1]. That's pretty horrifying. [1] https://apnews.com/article/ukrainian-children-russia-7493cb22c9086c6293c1ac7986d85ef6 https://apnews.com/article/ukrainian-children-russia-7493cb2...
      - pastacacioepepe 3y ago
        Thanks for proving my point by spamming me with more unrequested news. FYI I'll ignore it as I've been bombarded with this children in camps news piece for days already on all the media I have access to. Since I'm not a hypocrite like you, I can tell you that I don't care at all about what's happening in Ukraine as I prefer living my day without being forcefed terrifying/incorrect news or even worse propaganda. The same way as I ignored what was happening in Syria and Yemen or whatever other war/disaster happening right now in the world.
        simplotek 3y ago
        > Thanks for proving my point by spamming me with more unrequested news. You made no point. Just because you don't want to follow a topic that does not mean it's ok to censor it and stop everyone from liking things you don't like. That would be a stupid thing to defend, specially considering your content is already served by recommendation systems.
latency-guy2 3y ago
Last week I made deviled eggs with hollandaise sauce. I posted it on a few websites that you'd consider social media. What connection does the war have with my deviled eggs? If you can answer that and not consider yourself a lunatic demanding your singular topic to be at the forefront for all people at all times, then consider yourself the most important person in the world. I click away from conversations dealing with AI because they tend to be filled with people scared about something that does not exist or a blatant misunderstanding of what a tool does. I close websites that have enormous spins on topics I am intimately familiar with either lies through omission or generally ignorant statements that demonstrate no understanding of what is the main topic. Today, after posting this comment, I will click off Hackernews, because your comment is an example of the weird behavior that infests discussions across the internet, demanding only their position be the correct one even in the face of normal, good faith explanations for why your position may be not be correct. I know I am being a major hypocrite because I've insulted you in the previous section and in this one as well, but that doesn't matter to me right now. Hackernews will lose my engagement today, and if I am ever asked why I left, that blame is going to be you. I may not/won't return for a while. At best, I'll be here tomorrow, at worst I will never return. The effect that may have on Hackernews is to be determined, but what is known to whoever at all cares about engagement is they've lost a user.

whimsicalism 3y ago

I was simply responding to the comment that was made.

pastacacioepepe 3y ago

You have basically all traditional and social media pushing pointless and rushed news about Ukraine, a good part of which turn out to be incorrect later in time. Can we at least have one "safe space" where we don't have to constantly hear about death and glorification of weapons? Especially since we've never talked about Yemen or Syria with the same intensity.

matthewdgreen 3y ago
I heard plenty about what was happening in Syria, much of which also involved untargeted Russian brutality waged against civilians. Happy to link you to some of the articles about “barrel bombs” if you don’t remember them.
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  I followed the Syrian war heavily and the suggestion that its coverage was comparable to the coverage Ukraine got is not true and I think we all know it is not true.
  - matthewdgreen 3y ago
    I think we can both agree that the heavy degree of reporting in Ukraine is a good thing.
    - pastacacioepepe 3y ago
      This must be the peak passive aggressive. Dare to explain why that is a good thing?
- pastacacioepepe 3y ago
  You have to actively go look for Syria (or Yemen) news, while Ukraine news come looking for you. I don't get why you feel the need to get on the offensive about Russia. The only case I'm making is that being constantly subjected to rushed war news pieces isn't of any use except the instigation of primal/emotional reactions. The most trustworthy information will be disclosed after the war is over anyway, when the need for propaganda diminishes.
  - matthewdgreen 3y ago
    I thought the OP was complaining that the horrors in Syria weren't reported enough. From your post I gather that the objection is there is too much reporting on the horrors of what is happening in Ukraine, and you'd prefer to use the example of Syria to justify less reporting on things like, for example, the thousands of Ukrainian children that Russia is holding in camps and not returning to their parents [1]. That's pretty horrifying. [1] https://apnews.com/article/ukrainian-children-russia-7493cb22c9086c6293c1ac7986d85ef6 https://apnews.com/article/ukrainian-children-russia-7493cb2...
    - pastacacioepepe 3y ago
      Thanks for proving my point by spamming me with more unrequested news. FYI I'll ignore it as I've been bombarded with this children in camps news piece for days already on all the media I have access to. Since I'm not a hypocrite like you, I can tell you that I don't care at all about what's happening in Ukraine as I prefer living my day without being forcefed terrifying/incorrect news or even worse propaganda. The same way as I ignored what was happening in Syria and Yemen or whatever other war/disaster happening right now in the world.
      - simplotek 3y ago
        > Thanks for proving my point by spamming me with more unrequested news. You made no point. Just because you don't want to follow a topic that does not mean it's ok to censor it and stop everyone from liking things you don't like. That would be a stupid thing to defend, specially considering your content is already served by recommendation systems.

latency-guy2 3y ago

Last week I made deviled eggs with hollandaise sauce. I posted it on a few websites that you'd consider social media. What connection does the war have with my deviled eggs? If you can answer that and not consider yourself a lunatic demanding your singular topic to be at the forefront for all people at all times, then consider yourself the most important person in the world. I click away from conversations dealing with AI because they tend to be filled with people scared about something that does not exist or a blatant misunderstanding of what a tool does. I close websites that have enormous spins on topics I am intimately familiar with either lies through omission or generally ignorant statements that demonstrate no understanding of what is the main topic. Today, after posting this comment, I will click off Hackernews, because your comment is an example of the weird behavior that infests discussions across the internet, demanding only their position be the correct one even in the face of normal, good faith explanations for why your position may be not be correct. I know I am being a major hypocrite because I've insulted you in the previous section and in this one as well, but that doesn't matter to me right now. Hackernews will lose my engagement today, and if I am ever asked why I left, that blame is going to be you. I may not/won't return for a while. At best, I'll be here tomorrow, at worst I will never return. The effect that may have on Hackernews is to be determined, but what is known to whoever at all cares about engagement is they've lost a user.