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This. People like slapping laws on issues when the outcome is usually higher costs in the form of never shrinking burocrazys, little to no actual enforcement (u

This. People like slapping laws on issues when the outcome is usually higher costs in the form of never shrinking burocrazys, little to no actual enforcement (unless you are rich or connected) and the red tape involved in compliance will likely make it worse. The answer is by adopting different behavior on our end. Add blockers avoiding services litterer in ads (its why i no longer use Instagram, google search, etc)

ClumsyPilot 3y ago
> The answer is by adopting different behavior on our end. This tactic has not succeeded even once since written records began. Did snake oil salesmen disappear because we ran out of gullible people? Give me one example when this approach succeeded, without any corresponding legislation
- Clubber 3y ago
  >Give me one example when this approach succeeded, without any corresponding legislation I think he's describing when the market dethrones an entrenched player without legislation. This happens quite often. Cable companies come to mind. Kodak, Novell, Sun Microsystems, etc. Like he said, regulation today serves the wealthiest companies, because startups, the ones that do the dethroning, have extra costs that are more difficult to afford. I believe it fits in the Barrier to Entry category. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/barrierstoentry.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/barrierstoentry.asp If you want real regulation, you need to look to the anti-trust laws, but our current politicians don't have the stomach for that. Today's regulation really tends to serve the already entrenched, because the entrenched usually write the regulation.
  - ClumsyPilot 3y ago
    my understanding is that his example referred to consumers boycotting a business. I could not find a successful example. When a business gets replaced by a conpetitor, that's a diffetent mechanism
    - Clubber 3y ago
      Ah ok. Yes, I remember it companies changing their behavior due to boycotts in the 80s and 90s but not since. I suspect companies are too big and too global and have too good PR.
- lozenge 3y ago
  Popup and popunder ads? Email spam filtering? Web notification spam is much reduced since browsers made it a modal?
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ClumsyPilot 3y ago

> The answer is by adopting different behavior on our end. This tactic has not succeeded even once since written records began. Did snake oil salesmen disappear because we ran out of gullible people? Give me one example when this approach succeeded, without any corresponding legislation

Clubber 3y ago
>Give me one example when this approach succeeded, without any corresponding legislation I think he's describing when the market dethrones an entrenched player without legislation. This happens quite often. Cable companies come to mind. Kodak, Novell, Sun Microsystems, etc. Like he said, regulation today serves the wealthiest companies, because startups, the ones that do the dethroning, have extra costs that are more difficult to afford. I believe it fits in the Barrier to Entry category. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/barrierstoentry.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/barrierstoentry.asp If you want real regulation, you need to look to the anti-trust laws, but our current politicians don't have the stomach for that. Today's regulation really tends to serve the already entrenched, because the entrenched usually write the regulation.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago
  my understanding is that his example referred to consumers boycotting a business. I could not find a successful example. When a business gets replaced by a conpetitor, that's a diffetent mechanism
  - Clubber 3y ago
    Ah ok. Yes, I remember it companies changing their behavior due to boycotts in the 80s and 90s but not since. I suspect companies are too big and too global and have too good PR.
lozenge 3y ago
Popup and popunder ads? Email spam filtering? Web notification spam is much reduced since browsers made it a modal?

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