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Time for another three years of lockdowns. (I hope not)

by copper-float 3y ago

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hammock 3y ago
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- waych 3y ago
  People will downvote you because they are tired of these same lies and the people who spread them.
  - sakex 3y ago
    It's obviously satire
    - Izkata 3y ago
      Unfortunately it really isn't obvious, plenty of people believe and repeat exactly what they said. Fauci even had an interview recently where he said his biggest regret was not locking down faster and harder.
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- alephnerd 3y ago
  Vaccines and mass masking work. Lockdowns not so much: "Overall, our meta-analysis fails to confirm the notion that lockdowns – at least in the spring of 2020 – had a large, significant effect on mortality rates. Studies examining the relationship between lockdown strictness (based on the OxCGRT stringency index) find that the average lockdown in Europe and the United States only reduced COVID-19 mortality by 3.2% compared to the most lenient COVID-19 policy. Shelter-in-place orders (SIPOs) were also ineffective" (p. 58) [0] - https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/06/A-Systematic-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-of-COVID-19-Mortality-II.pdf https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/06/A-Systematic...
  - Izkata 3y ago
    Studies on mass masking tend to get similar results: they don't work either.
  - zizee 3y ago
    I'm not sure the definition of lockdown, but it appeared effective in Australia, New Zealand, and Taiwan.
    - matthewdgreen 3y ago
      And China, which went from an out-of-control virus that looked about to burn through the country in early 2020 to effectively zero COVID with just a few weeks of high-compliance lockdowns.
      - loeg 3y ago
        Until omicron, anyway.
  - tshaddox 3y ago
    What are the plausible explanations for how strict lockdowns wouldn't significantly slow down infections for a respiratory disease? Is it basically just that the lockdown strictness, duration, and enforcement is never sufficient to make a difference for such a highly contagious disease? Like there basically isn't a sufficient decrease in the number of person-to-person contacts to meaningfully change the end result of "everyone gets infected"? (I'm not asking about the other negative effects of lockdowns not directly related to the spread of disease, which is obviously also relevant to the broader discussion.)
vkou 3y ago
My town had three months of lockdowns, followed by (so far!) three years of complaining about lockdowns. (If I live long enough, I expect to hear thirty three more years of complaining about lockdowns.)
- areyousure 3y ago
  In case anyone is curious, it appears the location in question had three months of "stay at home", over a year of other restrictions (including school closures), 625 days of broad mask requirements, and so forth. In fact, some mask requirements are still in effect today.
  - HWR_14 3y ago
    Mask requirements are not lockdowns.

Time for another three years of lockdowns. (I hope not)

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waych 3y ago
People will downvote you because they are tired of these same lies and the people who spread them.
- sakex 3y ago
  It's obviously satire
  - Izkata 3y ago
    Unfortunately it really isn't obvious, plenty of people believe and repeat exactly what they said. Fauci even had an interview recently where he said his biggest regret was not locking down faster and harder.
    - junofan 3y ago
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alephnerd 3y ago
Vaccines and mass masking work. Lockdowns not so much: "Overall, our meta-analysis fails to confirm the notion that lockdowns – at least in the spring of 2020 – had a large, significant effect on mortality rates. Studies examining the relationship between lockdown strictness (based on the OxCGRT stringency index) find that the average lockdown in Europe and the United States only reduced COVID-19 mortality by 3.2% compared to the most lenient COVID-19 policy. Shelter-in-place orders (SIPOs) were also ineffective" (p. 58) [0] - https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/06/A-Systematic-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-of-COVID-19-Mortality-II.pdf https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/06/A-Systematic...
- Izkata 3y ago
  Studies on mass masking tend to get similar results: they don't work either.
- zizee 3y ago
  I'm not sure the definition of lockdown, but it appeared effective in Australia, New Zealand, and Taiwan.
  - matthewdgreen 3y ago
    And China, which went from an out-of-control virus that looked about to burn through the country in early 2020 to effectively zero COVID with just a few weeks of high-compliance lockdowns.
    - loeg 3y ago
      Until omicron, anyway.
- tshaddox 3y ago
  What are the plausible explanations for how strict lockdowns wouldn't significantly slow down infections for a respiratory disease? Is it basically just that the lockdown strictness, duration, and enforcement is never sufficient to make a difference for such a highly contagious disease? Like there basically isn't a sufficient decrease in the number of person-to-person contacts to meaningfully change the end result of "everyone gets infected"? (I'm not asking about the other negative effects of lockdowns not directly related to the spread of disease, which is obviously also relevant to the broader discussion.)

vkou 3y ago

My town had three months of lockdowns, followed by (so far!) three years of complaining about lockdowns. (If I live long enough, I expect to hear thirty three more years of complaining about lockdowns.)

areyousure 3y ago
In case anyone is curious, it appears the location in question had three months of "stay at home", over a year of other restrictions (including school closures), 625 days of broad mask requirements, and so forth. In fact, some mask requirements are still in effect today.
- HWR_14 3y ago
  Mask requirements are not lockdowns.