6 ms·
>You can't just handwave away complexity. It's entirely possible for the US to have too little regulation in some fields and too much regulation in other fields
by HervalFreire 3y ago
>You can't just handwave away complexity. It's entirely possible for the US to have too little regulation in some fields and too much regulation in other fields.
I didn't handwave anything. My answer is sufficiently complex with multitudes of counter examples to your point.
The whole thing with the massive list of examples is to illustrate a general point on the lack of business regulation overall in the US.
I literally stated it's the ratio of failures to successes that matters here. If I can produce 30 examples of the US failing to regulate and you produce one, that speaks to an overall generality that eclipses your example.
The arena of scientific validation is hard to establish here. Neither of us can paint a picture of the entire domain of every single failure and success of regulatory laws in existence for the US. So given the nature of this debate just list as many general examples as possible.
You have nuclear power as one, that's it.
>I never claimed otherwise. But why would a conservative think tank, which favors less business regulations, not even put the US on the top ten list of most "economically free" countries if the US is so underregulated? Why would they prefer the regulatory environment in Denmark and Sweden over the regulatory environment in the United States?
Don't know. The motivations of such groups are complex and multifaceted. Following some breadcrumb trail to get at the root of it is too much effort. I only know that this group is biased and not a neutral party. There's no point in vetting a known compromised source. Pick a valid one.
>So when I bring up examples they're "exceptions", but while you bring up examples, they're examples of the rule. When I cite sources that do an overall survey of a country's regulatory environment, that's "biased", but when you cite a source that makes their money by helping companies comply with food regulations, that's just fine.
Yeah you cited one bogus example from the heritage foundation. All my examples are real. Unlike yours.
>I can run ChatGPT myself, thanks. Why don't you try thinking for yourself and considering the possibility that your presuppositions are wrong?
Highly disagree. Your answers are inferior to anything chatGPT can come up with so obviously you likely can't run it yourself.
- philwelch 3y ago> The whole thing with the massive list of examples is to illustrate a general point on the lack of business regulation overall in the US. I literally stated it's the ratio of failures to successes that matters here. If I can produce 30 examples of the US failing to regulate and you produce one, that speaks to an overall generality that eclipses your example. Your list produces nothing of the kind, as I tediously went out of my way to demonstrate. > I only know that this group is biased and not a neutral party. There's no point in vetting a known compromised source. Pick a valid one. You haven't provided any valid sources yourself. > Highly disagree. Your answers are inferior to anything chatGPT can come up with so obviously you likely can't run it yourself. Well, that's just your opinion, and it's an opinion that reflects more on your poor judgment than on me.
- HervalFreire 3y agoLet's turn this into something real. This: https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/ https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experime... will never happen. No pause will occur. I'm right and you will be wrong. If it does happen then I concede that you're right. If it doesn't then it reflects poorly on you.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- philwelch 3y agoI never said with certainty whether the US would or wouldn't regulate AI. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the open letter you posted in any case. Frankly, the abrasive and belligerent way you've conducted yourself this entire conversation is the only thing that reflects poorly on anyone here. There's simply no call for making this personal.
- HervalFreire 3y ago[flagged]
- dang 3y agoWe've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 3y agoYou both broke the site guidelines badly in this thread. You unfortunately have a pattern of doing this and we had to warn you about almost exactly the same thing before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33187614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33187614. I don't want to ban you, so would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules properly from now on? We don't want this sort of tit-for-tat spat in which people abuse each other.