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Excuse me, but why is this top of Hacker News? Services go down sometimes, especially cloud ones. No need to make it harder for them by voting it to the top o

Excuse me, but why is this top of Hacker News? Services go down sometimes, especially cloud ones. No need to make it harder for them by voting it to the top of a major tech news site... edit - spelling

tferris 15y ago
maybe because a lot of of us are hosting their web services on heroku and we don't check mails and monitoring services every minute (but HN)?
rdl 15y ago
10-20% of apps developed by people on Hacker News probably use Heroku. It's not just a random service people use; if there is an outage, service operators will need to field end user inquiries, restore service, etc. hn is probably not a replacement for a good offsite monitoring service, but for me, I was browsing "why does my friend's new app not work; is he updating it live?", switched tabs to hn, saw "heroku down", and all was clear.
- melling 15y ago
  I think 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.
  - wyuenho 15y ago
    Around 18% of the people responded to the poll said they are hosting on a PasS, which I assume is mostly on Heroku. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3466168 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3466168
    - melling 15y ago
      I did not respond but I use GAE. I think I felt better when I knew the number was just made up.
      - rdl 15y ago
        I was going by other private surveys of specific subsets of the hn population. Number of companies, it's 10-20%. Lots of smaller companies or earlier stage; basically everyone who does Rails deployments (since that was originally Heroku's strength). GAE is the one very few people are using or want to continue using, especially after the Google price hike. I still prefer colo/managed hosting at scale, with EC2 for trials or surge capacity, myself.
bodegajed 15y ago
> Excuse me, but why is this top of Hacker News? Rubyists.
PakG1 15y ago
No need to make it harder for them by voting it to the top of a major tech news site... Curious what you mean by this? Could you clarify? My initial impression of this made me think that you're saying that we shouldn't draw attention to a service provider's downtime.
- ChrisAnn 15y ago
  By adding to the requests to the status page. As commented below, we've slowed it right down! I don't have a site on Heroku, but I clicked through anyway - it's on the top of Hacker News, so must be worth looking at.
  - PakG1 15y ago
    Hehe, but in all fairness, what matters in any infrastructure failure is information spread, not information uptime. :)

tferris 15y ago

maybe because a lot of of us are hosting their web services on heroku and we don't check mails and monitoring services every minute (but HN)?

rdl 15y ago

10-20% of apps developed by people on Hacker News probably use Heroku. It's not just a random service people use; if there is an outage, service operators will need to field end user inquiries, restore service, etc. hn is probably not a replacement for a good offsite monitoring service, but for me, I was browsing "why does my friend's new app not work; is he updating it live?", switched tabs to hn, saw "heroku down", and all was clear.

melling 15y ago
I think 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.
- wyuenho 15y ago
  Around 18% of the people responded to the poll said they are hosting on a PasS, which I assume is mostly on Heroku. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3466168 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3466168
  - melling 15y ago
    I did not respond but I use GAE. I think I felt better when I knew the number was just made up.
    - rdl 15y ago
      I was going by other private surveys of specific subsets of the hn population. Number of companies, it's 10-20%. Lots of smaller companies or earlier stage; basically everyone who does Rails deployments (since that was originally Heroku's strength). GAE is the one very few people are using or want to continue using, especially after the Google price hike. I still prefer colo/managed hosting at scale, with EC2 for trials or surge capacity, myself.

bodegajed 15y ago

> Excuse me, but why is this top of Hacker News? Rubyists.

PakG1 15y ago

No need to make it harder for them by voting it to the top of a major tech news site... Curious what you mean by this? Could you clarify? My initial impression of this made me think that you're saying that we shouldn't draw attention to a service provider's downtime.

ChrisAnn 15y ago
By adding to the requests to the status page. As commented below, we've slowed it right down! I don't have a site on Heroku, but I clicked through anyway - it's on the top of Hacker News, so must be worth looking at.
- PakG1 15y ago
  Hehe, but in all fairness, what matters in any infrastructure failure is information spread, not information uptime. :)