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I was stuck on a bug for half a day. Even ChatGPT couldn't solve it. The next day, I get access to GPT-4. I put the code in, describe the expected behavior I wa

by bavila 3y ago

I was stuck on a bug for half a day. Even ChatGPT couldn't solve it. The next day, I get access to GPT-4. I put the code in, describe the expected behavior I want, and describe the actual buggy behavior I'm getting. GPT-4 gave me the solution immediately. I'm definitely not considering this to be a low-value "toy". This is powerful stuff.

tkiolp4 3y ago
Weird. Being stuck for days with a bug is not that bad: - you learn a lot of stuff otherwise you wouldn’t have learned - you have material to talk about in your daily standups - your colleagues recognize your effort and once you fix it you get their admiration Using GPT to fix the bug for me would only mean: ok bug is fixed… now I’m gonna pick up the next Jira ticket. So boring.
- yawnxyz 3y ago
  having mostly worked on my own, I find it fascinating this is how mid-level engineers structure their days at work
  - nathants 3y ago
    incentives drive behavior. ask chatgpt how to maximize your income and minimize arduous work while employed at a large tech company. it would suggest this and similar behavior. perhaps soon we’ll see new incentives and behaviors emerging in the market.
  - tkiolp4 3y ago
    Now you know why Twitter had +7K employees.
- bavila 3y ago
  > Weird. Being stuck for days with a bug is not that bad Haha, it is when you have a 24-hour turnaround deadline. This project was (and still is) a BFD at my company, and time is of the essence. My colleagues would not be impressed by my ability to tell a fun war story; they are impressed by my ability to ship and do it fast. > Using GPT to fix the bug for me would only mean: ok bug is fixed… now I’m gonna pick up the next Jira ticket. So boring. I wish I had the luxury of being bored right now. Be grateful for those moments. That next ticket is something I want and need to pick up. This is not a time for idle musings and learning for us; it's a time for hunting and killing.
  - namaria 3y ago
    >it's a time for hunting and killing I ask myself if foregoing the chance to learn under fire and outsourcing it to a corporate tool is extracting the right value from it. Yeah you get the task on hand done. Maybe means money comes in. Trumps everything right? But next time you'll depend on this remote API to hold your hands again. What if it costs 10x as much then, or is now proprietary and unavailable to you? We're all giving up learning for short term convenience? Is that what makes good engineers?

by bavila 3y ago

tkiolp4 3y ago

Weird. Being stuck for days with a bug is not that bad: - you learn a lot of stuff otherwise you wouldn’t have learned - you have material to talk about in your daily standups - your colleagues recognize your effort and once you fix it you get their admiration Using GPT to fix the bug for me would only mean: ok bug is fixed… now I’m gonna pick up the next Jira ticket. So boring.

yawnxyz 3y ago
having mostly worked on my own, I find it fascinating this is how mid-level engineers structure their days at work
- nathants 3y ago
  incentives drive behavior. ask chatgpt how to maximize your income and minimize arduous work while employed at a large tech company. it would suggest this and similar behavior. perhaps soon we’ll see new incentives and behaviors emerging in the market.
- tkiolp4 3y ago
  Now you know why Twitter had +7K employees.
bavila 3y ago
> Weird. Being stuck for days with a bug is not that bad Haha, it is when you have a 24-hour turnaround deadline. This project was (and still is) a BFD at my company, and time is of the essence. My colleagues would not be impressed by my ability to tell a fun war story; they are impressed by my ability to ship and do it fast. > Using GPT to fix the bug for me would only mean: ok bug is fixed… now I’m gonna pick up the next Jira ticket. So boring. I wish I had the luxury of being bored right now. Be grateful for those moments. That next ticket is something I want and need to pick up. This is not a time for idle musings and learning for us; it's a time for hunting and killing.
- namaria 3y ago
  >it's a time for hunting and killing I ask myself if foregoing the chance to learn under fire and outsourcing it to a corporate tool is extracting the right value from it. Yeah you get the task on hand done. Maybe means money comes in. Trumps everything right? But next time you'll depend on this remote API to hold your hands again. What if it costs 10x as much then, or is now proprietary and unavailable to you? We're all giving up learning for short term convenience? Is that what makes good engineers?