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EDIT: I think that my conclusion in this message is wrong. ---------------- [PDF / page 8] http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=

by dan85 15y ago

EDIT: I think that my conclusion in this message is wrong. ---------------- [PDF / page 8] http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.votewatch.eu%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F01%2Fvotewatch_report_voting_behavior_26_january_beta.pdf&ei=koQiT8PjL8HNhAf-r9V2&usg=AFQjCNF7rNGSdj3Y4G6eKkP_CTm7GISTYA http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&#... PES http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_European_Socialists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_of_European_Socialists and The Green Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Green_Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Green_Party voted for ACTA. EPP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_People%27s_Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_People%27s_Party voted against ACTA. ... and people call the right wing "evil fascists who eat babies".

toyg 15y ago
I'm a left-winger and I support this message. Post-WWII political categories are getting increasingly meaningless.
feb 15y ago
According to the text in the votewatch report you linked, the European Peope party voted against the proposition from the left in order to get their version to pass : "However, to win on this issue, the EPP and ECR first had to reject the joint Motion for Resolution proposed by the centre-left. The EPP and ECR managed to win thanks to 11 defections from ALDE and 13 from S&D members (the entire British Labour delegation)."
- dan85 15y ago
  I think you might be right. Anyway, my distrust for ALL politicians still remains. The left-wing's MO is "think of the children" while the right-wing's is "we must fight terrorism". But in the end they all have the same goal.
  - DannoHung 15y ago
    Seriously? Maybe this is a European thing, but conservatives pull "TEH CHILDREN" just as much as anyone else.
rbehrends 15y ago
You're misreading this. The motion that was defeated against the votes of the center-left was this: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&reference=P7-RC-2010-0617&language=EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&#3... It is a resolution that is critical of ACTA and asks for necessary clarifications and improvements. It is pretty much the exact opposite of "voting for ACTA". The center-right parties then succeeded in getting a motion of resolution approved for the following text: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&reference=B7-2010-0618&language=EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&#3...

by dan85 15y ago

toyg 15y ago

I'm a left-winger and I support this message. Post-WWII political categories are getting increasingly meaningless.

feb 15y ago

According to the text in the votewatch report you linked, the European Peope party voted against the proposition from the left in order to get their version to pass : "However, to win on this issue, the EPP and ECR first had to reject the joint Motion for Resolution proposed by the centre-left. The EPP and ECR managed to win thanks to 11 defections from ALDE and 13 from S&D members (the entire British Labour delegation)."

dan85 15y ago
I think you might be right. Anyway, my distrust for ALL politicians still remains. The left-wing's MO is "think of the children" while the right-wing's is "we must fight terrorism". But in the end they all have the same goal.
- DannoHung 15y ago
  Seriously? Maybe this is a European thing, but conservatives pull "TEH CHILDREN" just as much as anyone else.

rbehrends 15y ago

You're misreading this. The motion that was defeated against the votes of the center-left was this: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&reference=P7-RC-2010-0617&language=EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&#3... It is a resolution that is critical of ACTA and asks for necessary clarifications and improvements. It is pretty much the exact opposite of "voting for ACTA". The center-right parties then succeeded in getting a motion of resolution approved for the following text: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&reference=B7-2010-0618&language=EN http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&#3...