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With GPT-4, I'm thinking if Duolingo has fundamentally been reduced to a game. The key network effect left is pretty much a leaderboard that fuels their daily
by salimmadjd 4y ago
With GPT-4, I'm thinking if Duolingo has fundamentally been reduced to a game.
The key network effect left is pretty much a leaderboard that fuels their daily retention. So any existing game company could potentially create another gamified learning app as part of their game pools.
- bayesian_horse 4y agoThere are lots of educational games or apps around language learning. Nobody is as successful as Duolingo. Or as useful as Duolingo, at least in whatever Duolingo chooses to do. I don't even think they think being compared to a game is a bad thing. What makes Duolingo the best in its field is the content and the varied exercises with a high quality.
- ted_bunny 4y agoYes, the gamification is the major positive feature that gets people to stick to it. But the exercises aren't varied or high quality. Try drilling a particular skill and you'll soon memorize all their sentences, to a degree that it trivializes the practice. Not to mention they're absolutely riddled with errors that strongly imply they don't even run the translations by a native English speaker. Voice exercises with numbers are simply broken in Russian. And all the comments are locked, with many of the complaints ignored.
- bayesian_horse 4y agoI never run into those issues. I use about 6 courses, and the English sentences have always been grammatically correct. There's nothing wrong with memorizing example sentences. Your brain is not a digital memory bank, memorizing is impossible without forming some deeper understanding on the fly.
- ted_bunny 4y agoWhat I mean is, DL refuses to teach that deeper understanding. You have to beg in the comments to identify a declension. And the memory thing - I don't have to think about what a sentence means. This is phrasebook teaching, a piss-poor method.