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Funny how these articles seldom mentioned the war crimes of the sympathetic side. Like how these rebellions started by killing all Romans in the province, after

Funny how these articles seldom mentioned the war crimes of the sympathetic side. Like how these rebellions started by killing all Romans in the province, after raping the women and children first of course.

thegaulofthem 4y ago
Well, you see, for my side it’s Different… More seriously, are we going to have a put disclaimers on an all encyclopedic articles that “standards of conduct were much different then”? How much pretext then becomes necessary?
- forgetfulness 4y ago
  Considering that encyclopedias are meant to be pedagogical in nature since they were invented during the Illustration, yes, that would be helpful; if a teenager would come off with the wrong impression from reading an encyclopedia, it doesn't serve the function of one. Material for people who are knowledgeable in the area are specialized books that can assume more background knowledge or journal articles meant for people keeping up with the state of the art.
  - AvAurora 4y ago
    There should be a separation between historicism and ethics and factual data. If you want to blame the school curriculum because they dont teach ethics or morals, im fine with that but moralizing what should be a factual recount of some events is another thing. This is like me opening a chemistry book and reading, the formulation and process of synthesizing cyanide, despite its multiple uses in crime and assasinations by the soviet union, is .....
unity1001 4y ago
Those rebellions in those provinces start after Romans export half of the population as slaves and send the rest to work in the local mines. There's the catch. Actually, its worse - even if you were a saintly society neighboring Rome or within the reach of Rome, Rome would invent a 'reason' to invade you if you had something they wanted or they lacked enough slaves. Like how the Syracuse invasion was done on literally manufactured consent by disguised legionnaires committing acts of atrocities against the Romans. All the wars of Rome from Early Republic and on were done on such manufactured consent and false flags. At the end of the Republic period, everything changes - they stop needing to manufacture 'reasons' for invasions. By this time, the empire is already nascent as a social and political format and the slave-reliant economy is already dominant so there is no need to manufacture consent for the need for acquiring slaves.
- thrown123098 4y ago
  Only half? That's so civilised. Inter tribal wars ended with all the men dead or in slavery, all the old women murdered and all the young women taken in as sex slaves. Same for the children too.
  - unity1001 4y ago
    > Only half? That's so civilised. Inter tribal wars ended with all the men dead or in slavery Well yes, that's true. But one could consider the central Italian unification wars as even nastier affairs. However yes, its not like Romans were not as brutal in other periods as they were in social wars...

thegaulofthem 4y ago

Well, you see, for my side it’s Different… More seriously, are we going to have a put disclaimers on an all encyclopedic articles that “standards of conduct were much different then”? How much pretext then becomes necessary?

forgetfulness 4y ago
Considering that encyclopedias are meant to be pedagogical in nature since they were invented during the Illustration, yes, that would be helpful; if a teenager would come off with the wrong impression from reading an encyclopedia, it doesn't serve the function of one. Material for people who are knowledgeable in the area are specialized books that can assume more background knowledge or journal articles meant for people keeping up with the state of the art.
- AvAurora 4y ago
  There should be a separation between historicism and ethics and factual data. If you want to blame the school curriculum because they dont teach ethics or morals, im fine with that but moralizing what should be a factual recount of some events is another thing. This is like me opening a chemistry book and reading, the formulation and process of synthesizing cyanide, despite its multiple uses in crime and assasinations by the soviet union, is .....

unity1001 4y ago

Those rebellions in those provinces start after Romans export half of the population as slaves and send the rest to work in the local mines. There's the catch. Actually, its worse - even if you were a saintly society neighboring Rome or within the reach of Rome, Rome would invent a 'reason' to invade you if you had something they wanted or they lacked enough slaves. Like how the Syracuse invasion was done on literally manufactured consent by disguised legionnaires committing acts of atrocities against the Romans. All the wars of Rome from Early Republic and on were done on such manufactured consent and false flags. At the end of the Republic period, everything changes - they stop needing to manufacture 'reasons' for invasions. By this time, the empire is already nascent as a social and political format and the slave-reliant economy is already dominant so there is no need to manufacture consent for the need for acquiring slaves.

thrown123098 4y ago
Only half? That's so civilised. Inter tribal wars ended with all the men dead or in slavery, all the old women murdered and all the young women taken in as sex slaves. Same for the children too.
- unity1001 4y ago
  > Only half? That's so civilised. Inter tribal wars ended with all the men dead or in slavery Well yes, that's true. But one could consider the central Italian unification wars as even nastier affairs. However yes, its not like Romans were not as brutal in other periods as they were in social wars...