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I'm not sure what is wrong here, taking into account that it's usual for Sony to make titles produced by their subsidiaries as exclusives for PS only (yes, e.g.

I'm not sure what is wrong here, taking into account that it's usual for Sony to make titles produced by their subsidiaries as exclusives for PS only (yes, e.g. God of War was released on PC too, but that was almost 4 years after the initial launch as PS4 exclusive). At least Microsoft releases games on Windows simultaneously with Xbox launch, and these Windows releases could run on Linux too (thank you Valve & Proton). Not possible with Sony stuff.

kyrra 4y ago
The issue is that this isn't Microsoft bootstrapping a new division that produces games exclusive for their platforms. This is a problem of Microsoft trying to buy one of the larger existing game publishers with some very popular titles and likely make many of them Microsoft platform exclusive.
- pepemon 4y ago
  That's why I additionally pointed about Windows releases. With Microsoft exclusive, you can play the title on Xbox, Windows PC, Linux PC, Steam Deck. With Sony, it's PS only.
  - tapoxi 4y ago
    Sony's actually made an effort to get many newer games ported to PC, and Steam Deck verified.
    - pepemon 4y ago
      What kind of "newer"? I only consider Spider-Man: Miles Morales as "new enough" and it was still released over 2 years ago. When God of War: Ragnarok will be available on PC? You get Xbox titles on PC on the same day of their console release.
      - tapoxi 4y ago
        Returnal which came out April 2021 and the PC version just released, technically Destiny 2: Lightfall (if that counts) was day-and-date. Sony still has an incentive to sell hardware and keep games exclusive though. Unlike Microsoft, they don't control Windows and don't have an incentive to keep Windows the gaming OS of choice. Microsoft is also trying to push their own Xbox Game Pass and get users gradually away from Steam.
- MikusR 4y ago
  When Sony buys company to make exclusives - good. When Microsoft - bad
  - Cyph0n 4y ago
    Can you share an example of Sony buying a company at the scale of Activision and turning it exclusive? The only recent significant studio acquisitions I can think of already had a long history of making PS exclusives (e.g., Insomniac).
    - elzbardico 4y ago
      Because they don't have the kind of money to do that. But they never cared about windows and Xbox players when the game stakes were low enough for them to play the exclusive game.
      - Hamuko 4y ago
        The fact that Sony, who Microsoft insists is absolutely obliterating them in the gaming space, doesn't have the money to enact these sorts of massive mega-mergers seems telling that this kind of a deal is not just a natural part of the market. Rather, Microsoft is just leverating their wealth from their other businesses to armstrong the market.
- elzbardico 4y ago
  And why is this any different other than from some naive puritanical point of view? Developing new versions and new games will take as much money and probably more than the initial versions.
  - edgyquant 4y ago
    Because it’s anticompetitive and MS should have not been allowed to purchase such a company.
    - elzbardico 4y ago
      And what sony does is different? Just because they pay less at an early stage?
goosedragons 4y ago
Wow. Microsoft releases games for Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Xbox? And thanks to tremendous efforts by third parties they work on other platforms? Amazing! I doubt you or most people would consider Breath of the Wild not to be Nintendo exclusive despite it being on TWO different Nintendo platforms and playable on other platforms thanks to third parties. Microsoft plays the exclusive game too no matter how much people like to pretend that they don't control Windows and benefit from keeping it the dominate PC gaming OS.
- pepemon 4y ago
  You can't run yuzu or Cemu on PS even if you wanted too. The Sony's platform is tremendously locked. Also I mentioned Proton in my original post, you get Linux compability for the "Microsoft exclusive" game basically for free.
  - goosedragons 4y ago
    With Yuzu and Cemu you get Linux and Windows compatibility for the "Nintendo exclusive" game for free. I can't run Halo Infinite or Forza Horizon 5 on PS5 either regardless if I wanted to.
    - pepemon 4y ago
      You can't run Breath of the Wild too.
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  - gibspaulding 4y ago
    > Also I mentioned Proton in my original post, you get Linux compability for the "Microsoft exclusive" game basically for free. You got my hopes up:/ I just looked and I don't see a single COD game showing proton/steamdeck support on steam. Maybe there's workarounds for some of the old ones, but I don't think any recent ones with working anti cheat have anything but Windows support.
brwck 4y ago
I was so sure that rise of PC ownership would spell the end of consoles. I still can't believe console gaming grew and became even more entrenched the last 10 years. It would be like if blockbuster grew and became more popular with the rise of netflix.

kyrra 4y ago

The issue is that this isn't Microsoft bootstrapping a new division that produces games exclusive for their platforms. This is a problem of Microsoft trying to buy one of the larger existing game publishers with some very popular titles and likely make many of them Microsoft platform exclusive.

pepemon 4y ago
That's why I additionally pointed about Windows releases. With Microsoft exclusive, you can play the title on Xbox, Windows PC, Linux PC, Steam Deck. With Sony, it's PS only.
- tapoxi 4y ago
  Sony's actually made an effort to get many newer games ported to PC, and Steam Deck verified.
  - pepemon 4y ago
    What kind of "newer"? I only consider Spider-Man: Miles Morales as "new enough" and it was still released over 2 years ago. When God of War: Ragnarok will be available on PC? You get Xbox titles on PC on the same day of their console release.
    - tapoxi 4y ago
      Returnal which came out April 2021 and the PC version just released, technically Destiny 2: Lightfall (if that counts) was day-and-date. Sony still has an incentive to sell hardware and keep games exclusive though. Unlike Microsoft, they don't control Windows and don't have an incentive to keep Windows the gaming OS of choice. Microsoft is also trying to push their own Xbox Game Pass and get users gradually away from Steam.
MikusR 4y ago
When Sony buys company to make exclusives - good. When Microsoft - bad
- Cyph0n 4y ago
  Can you share an example of Sony buying a company at the scale of Activision and turning it exclusive? The only recent significant studio acquisitions I can think of already had a long history of making PS exclusives (e.g., Insomniac).
  - elzbardico 4y ago
    Because they don't have the kind of money to do that. But they never cared about windows and Xbox players when the game stakes were low enough for them to play the exclusive game.
    - Hamuko 4y ago
      The fact that Sony, who Microsoft insists is absolutely obliterating them in the gaming space, doesn't have the money to enact these sorts of massive mega-mergers seems telling that this kind of a deal is not just a natural part of the market. Rather, Microsoft is just leverating their wealth from their other businesses to armstrong the market.
elzbardico 4y ago
And why is this any different other than from some naive puritanical point of view? Developing new versions and new games will take as much money and probably more than the initial versions.
- edgyquant 4y ago
  Because it’s anticompetitive and MS should have not been allowed to purchase such a company.
  - elzbardico 4y ago
    And what sony does is different? Just because they pay less at an early stage?

goosedragons 4y ago

Wow. Microsoft releases games for Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Xbox? And thanks to tremendous efforts by third parties they work on other platforms? Amazing! I doubt you or most people would consider Breath of the Wild not to be Nintendo exclusive despite it being on TWO different Nintendo platforms and playable on other platforms thanks to third parties. Microsoft plays the exclusive game too no matter how much people like to pretend that they don't control Windows and benefit from keeping it the dominate PC gaming OS.

pepemon 4y ago
You can't run yuzu or Cemu on PS even if you wanted too. The Sony's platform is tremendously locked. Also I mentioned Proton in my original post, you get Linux compability for the "Microsoft exclusive" game basically for free.
- goosedragons 4y ago
  With Yuzu and Cemu you get Linux and Windows compatibility for the "Nintendo exclusive" game for free. I can't run Halo Infinite or Forza Horizon 5 on PS5 either regardless if I wanted to.
  - pepemon 4y ago
    You can't run Breath of the Wild too.
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- gibspaulding 4y ago
  > Also I mentioned Proton in my original post, you get Linux compability for the "Microsoft exclusive" game basically for free. You got my hopes up:/ I just looked and I don't see a single COD game showing proton/steamdeck support on steam. Maybe there's workarounds for some of the old ones, but I don't think any recent ones with working anti cheat have anything but Windows support.

brwck 4y ago

I was so sure that rise of PC ownership would spell the end of consoles. I still can't believe console gaming grew and became even more entrenched the last 10 years. It would be like if blockbuster grew and became more popular with the rise of netflix.