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Here in the US, luxury appliances are what sell houses. Usually the investment pays handsomly when you go to sell.

cesarb 4y ago
> Here in the US, luxury appliances are what sell houses. Usually the investment pays handsomly when you go to sell. You don't take your appliances with you when you move?
- philwelch 4y ago
  In Texas people usually take their washer, dryer, and fridge.
- eatsyourtacos 4y ago
  Most of the time, no. Probably because as "standard" as sizes of appliances are- they also are not. So the last thing you want a potential buyer worrying about is (1) looking at an empty appliance slot or (2) knowing the appliances are going and worrying if they can find something to perfectly fit in the same spot. I mean also, because appliances usually stay.. it's kind of a problem for no one. Often times someone is selling a house to build a new one, they don't want to bring old appliances in a new build. Or if you are buying a pre-existing house, that will generally have the appliances etc.
  - kitsunesoba 4y ago
    Also, appliances have been subject to the same supersizing effect as many other things in the US, especially refrigerators. A kitchen built or last remodeled prior to the mid-2000s or so is likely going to have trouble finding a fridge that will fit properly because they've gotten so much larger.
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      Appliances wear out and need replaced and lots of property owners don’t regularly remodel, so there is a pretty big market for, and ready supply of, things like refrigerators that fit older houses. In a brick-and-mortar showroom, they won't be in the most prominent locations, but they also will often be fairly well priced for what they are because its a large and price-sensitive market segment.
- AnIrishDuck 4y ago
  We do not. This is always one of those things that blows minds when one side of the pond hears how things work on the other side.
- superhuzza 4y ago
  Some do, some don't. Many appliances are effectively built-in to the kitchen (sometimes ovens, stoves), or may not fit in the new house. It's agreed upon by the seller and buyer.
- crazygringo 4y ago
  Absolutely not. They're built into the house. Cabinets are literally constructed around them to fit seamlessly. I know it's common in certain other countries to take your appliances with you, even for rentals. It makes moving so much harder, I've never understood it. To me, a home not coming with a refrigerator or washing machine makes as much sense as it not coming with a toilet or shower.
  - newaccount2023 4y ago
    those cabinets are all built to standard dimensions though your "builtin" fridge isn't really builtin, it just has cabinetry (plywood + veneer) on both side and the top in a standard dimension...its not like the home was built around the fridge in most homes even the "builtin" cabinetry work is cheap garbage that can be replaced trivially, particularly in the case of white-finish just in most homes now
  - yamtaddle 4y ago
    > Absolutely not. They're built into the house. Cabinets are literally constructed around them to fit seamlessly. Only true in houses with high-end finishes.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  I would not, but I also have never owned any super fancy appliances worth more than $2k. Also, most appliance sellers include free disposal of old appliances, so the new homeowner does not have to worry about that.
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- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > You don't take your appliances with you when you move? Very often, they do take some, but large appliances are expensive to move making it a convenient time to trade up, and many homebuyers are first time homebuyers moving out of places where they don’t own the appliances (whether young people moving out from their parents or ex-renters moving from a place where the landlord owns some or all of the appliances), so appliances can be a big boon to selling a house.
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  > You don't take your appliances with you when you move? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Dishwashers are probably the most-likely to stay with the house, followed by the range. Fridge may be included with the house, or specified as negotiable, but often isn't—probably the most-likely one for the seller to keep. Some higher-end models of various appliances (including refrigerators) may be built-in rather than freestanding, and/or to be styled to match the cabinets, and in those cases they almost always stay. Clothes washer and dryer are usually taken. IME appliances are more likely to stay the higher the cost of the house (they're more likely to be kinda tied to the house, style-wise or physically; the owner is more likely to consider them not worth moving).
- bluGill 4y ago
  You can, but why would you want to?
- mousetree 4y ago
  Here in Germany people take their entire kitchen when they move - even from rentals. It's normal to rent an apartment with no kitchen (no cabinets, no appliances, literally an empty room with some pipes). Very strange.
newaccount2023 4y ago
no, LOCATION sells homes appliances are a commodity that represent a minor fraction of the sale price no one plonks down $2 million dollars on a home to get $30k worth of appliances no one moves into a poor school district to buy a Viking range you can swap out all the appliances in a home in a few days and the idea that these are an "investment"?? how many homes have you owned? no one is making a profit off of installing a dishwasher and to edit a response...you just flipped properties in a seller's market, you would have made a profit regardless. wait until it is truly a buyer's market...you won't get a premium off easily-done renovations like swapping appliances
- fowkswe 4y ago
  I've owned and sold several homes that I've renovated and they always fetch a premium. Recently I sold an apartment in a complex with 1200 units - so comps are widely available. The sale happened in a matter of hours with 6 way-over-ask offers, half of which were all cash. The closing price continues to be a high water mark for this unit / line in the complex. There were other units on the market at the same time as us where the sale took weeks if not months and sold for drastically less. Some of them were recently renovated, but had builder grade finishes. High end kitchen / bathroom renovations (aka appliances) are most certainly a major factor.

> Here in the US, luxury appliances are what sell houses. Usually the investment pays handsomly when you go to sell. You don't take your appliances with you when you move?

philwelch 4y ago
In Texas people usually take their washer, dryer, and fridge.
eatsyourtacos 4y ago
Most of the time, no. Probably because as "standard" as sizes of appliances are- they also are not. So the last thing you want a potential buyer worrying about is (1) looking at an empty appliance slot or (2) knowing the appliances are going and worrying if they can find something to perfectly fit in the same spot. I mean also, because appliances usually stay.. it's kind of a problem for no one. Often times someone is selling a house to build a new one, they don't want to bring old appliances in a new build. Or if you are buying a pre-existing house, that will generally have the appliances etc.
- kitsunesoba 4y ago
  Also, appliances have been subject to the same supersizing effect as many other things in the US, especially refrigerators. A kitchen built or last remodeled prior to the mid-2000s or so is likely going to have trouble finding a fridge that will fit properly because they've gotten so much larger.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    Appliances wear out and need replaced and lots of property owners don’t regularly remodel, so there is a pretty big market for, and ready supply of, things like refrigerators that fit older houses. In a brick-and-mortar showroom, they won't be in the most prominent locations, but they also will often be fairly well priced for what they are because its a large and price-sensitive market segment.
AnIrishDuck 4y ago
We do not. This is always one of those things that blows minds when one side of the pond hears how things work on the other side.
superhuzza 4y ago
Some do, some don't. Many appliances are effectively built-in to the kitchen (sometimes ovens, stoves), or may not fit in the new house. It's agreed upon by the seller and buyer.
crazygringo 4y ago
Absolutely not. They're built into the house. Cabinets are literally constructed around them to fit seamlessly. I know it's common in certain other countries to take your appliances with you, even for rentals. It makes moving so much harder, I've never understood it. To me, a home not coming with a refrigerator or washing machine makes as much sense as it not coming with a toilet or shower.
- newaccount2023 4y ago
  those cabinets are all built to standard dimensions though your "builtin" fridge isn't really builtin, it just has cabinetry (plywood + veneer) on both side and the top in a standard dimension...its not like the home was built around the fridge in most homes even the "builtin" cabinetry work is cheap garbage that can be replaced trivially, particularly in the case of white-finish just in most homes now
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  > Absolutely not. They're built into the house. Cabinets are literally constructed around them to fit seamlessly. Only true in houses with high-end finishes.
lotsofpulp 4y ago
I would not, but I also have never owned any super fancy appliances worth more than $2k. Also, most appliance sellers include free disposal of old appliances, so the new homeowner does not have to worry about that.
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dragonwriter 4y ago
> You don't take your appliances with you when you move? Very often, they do take some, but large appliances are expensive to move making it a convenient time to trade up, and many homebuyers are first time homebuyers moving out of places where they don’t own the appliances (whether young people moving out from their parents or ex-renters moving from a place where the landlord owns some or all of the appliances), so appliances can be a big boon to selling a house.
yamtaddle 4y ago
> You don't take your appliances with you when you move? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Dishwashers are probably the most-likely to stay with the house, followed by the range. Fridge may be included with the house, or specified as negotiable, but often isn't—probably the most-likely one for the seller to keep. Some higher-end models of various appliances (including refrigerators) may be built-in rather than freestanding, and/or to be styled to match the cabinets, and in those cases they almost always stay. Clothes washer and dryer are usually taken. IME appliances are more likely to stay the higher the cost of the house (they're more likely to be kinda tied to the house, style-wise or physically; the owner is more likely to consider them not worth moving).
bluGill 4y ago
You can, but why would you want to?
mousetree 4y ago
Here in Germany people take their entire kitchen when they move - even from rentals. It's normal to rent an apartment with no kitchen (no cabinets, no appliances, literally an empty room with some pipes). Very strange.

newaccount2023 4y ago

no, LOCATION sells homes appliances are a commodity that represent a minor fraction of the sale price no one plonks down $2 million dollars on a home to get $30k worth of appliances no one moves into a poor school district to buy a Viking range you can swap out all the appliances in a home in a few days and the idea that these are an "investment"?? how many homes have you owned? no one is making a profit off of installing a dishwasher and to edit a response...you just flipped properties in a seller's market, you would have made a profit regardless. wait until it is truly a buyer's market...you won't get a premium off easily-done renovations like swapping appliances

fowkswe 4y ago
I've owned and sold several homes that I've renovated and they always fetch a premium. Recently I sold an apartment in a complex with 1200 units - so comps are widely available. The sale happened in a matter of hours with 6 way-over-ask offers, half of which were all cash. The closing price continues to be a high water mark for this unit / line in the complex. There were other units on the market at the same time as us where the sale took weeks if not months and sold for drastically less. Some of them were recently renovated, but had builder grade finishes. High end kitchen / bathroom renovations (aka appliances) are most certainly a major factor.