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Who ever told you Signal provides anonymity to the sender or recipient?

O__________O 4y ago
Signal supports anonymous connections, anonymous user accounts, secure operating systems, etc — not saying it’s easy, but neither is securely using SecureDrop to my knowledge. OpSec is hard by definition, if it was easy and cheap, counter measures including laws banning such activities would rapidly appear.
- antisocialist 4y ago
  "Supports some feature" vs. "suitable for specific use case" are two very different things. Does the foundation claim their application is suitable for such use cases? They have no choice but to assist the government with whatever info they may have. https://tech.hindustantimes.com/mobile/news/recent-court-filing-reveals-exactly-how-much-data-signal-collects-about-you-71619595504148.html https://tech.hindustantimes.com/mobile/news/recent-court-fil... I agree SecureDrop is complex (in fact I mentioned that in another comment). It's way more complex than sending a file with Signal or other modern privacy apps, but at least all parts are private and secure (as far as we know) so it's up to the user to not make mistakes. With Signal we know that Signal itself may be compelled to provide information about its users and I think that's why they wouldn't recommend their application for such use cases.
  - O__________O 4y ago
    Again, Signal supports anonymous connections, anonymous user accounts, secure operating systems, etc. If anything, it’s more secure than SecureDrop because it doesn’t require using Tor, which is a huge red flag and appear to acknowledge odds of it being secure are questionable at best. Also, assuming user uses an anonymous connections, anonymous user account, secure operating systems, etc — Signal would have no information it could be compelled to provide.
- egberts1 4y ago
  But, but ... BUT there are sufficient metadata enough to develop ASSOCIATION between two unknown users.
  - O__________O 4y ago
    Without knowing the specific metadata by name, it’s source, exact context you’re referring to, etc — it is not possible to respond.
    - egberts1 4y ago
      May not be possible to respond but it is possible to develop a social cloud map.

Signal supports anonymous connections, anonymous user accounts, secure operating systems, etc — not saying it’s easy, but neither is securely using SecureDrop to my knowledge. OpSec is hard by definition, if it was easy and cheap, counter measures including laws banning such activities would rapidly appear.

antisocialist 4y ago
"Supports some feature" vs. "suitable for specific use case" are two very different things. Does the foundation claim their application is suitable for such use cases? They have no choice but to assist the government with whatever info they may have. https://tech.hindustantimes.com/mobile/news/recent-court-filing-reveals-exactly-how-much-data-signal-collects-about-you-71619595504148.html https://tech.hindustantimes.com/mobile/news/recent-court-fil... I agree SecureDrop is complex (in fact I mentioned that in another comment). It's way more complex than sending a file with Signal or other modern privacy apps, but at least all parts are private and secure (as far as we know) so it's up to the user to not make mistakes. With Signal we know that Signal itself may be compelled to provide information about its users and I think that's why they wouldn't recommend their application for such use cases.
- O__________O 4y ago
  Again, Signal supports anonymous connections, anonymous user accounts, secure operating systems, etc. If anything, it’s more secure than SecureDrop because it doesn’t require using Tor, which is a huge red flag and appear to acknowledge odds of it being secure are questionable at best. Also, assuming user uses an anonymous connections, anonymous user account, secure operating systems, etc — Signal would have no information it could be compelled to provide.
egberts1 4y ago
But, but ... BUT there are sufficient metadata enough to develop ASSOCIATION between two unknown users.
- O__________O 4y ago
  Without knowing the specific metadata by name, it’s source, exact context you’re referring to, etc — it is not possible to respond.
  - egberts1 4y ago
    May not be possible to respond but it is possible to develop a social cloud map.