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This comment really rubs me the wrong way. Striving to maximize productivity should be a core value for anyone that works. We should always be looking to impro

This comment really rubs me the wrong way. Striving to maximize productivity should be a core value for anyone that works. We should always be looking to improve and to make things more efficient. This is a core value of capitalism that people seem to forget. We should want to make things continuously better. Instead there’s this nihilistic take that anything like that is pointless and doesn’t pay off. The accomplishment of something great, the self improvement, should be considered a pay off in and of itself. Doing the least amount of work to get away just brings everyone down. Why strive for better if mediocre pays the bills?

adave 4y ago
Rub you wrong or more likely reduces money for the guy up the totem pole. Nihlistic is wanting someone else to work harder for nothing while another makes money of them.
- _trackno5 4y ago
  Of course the business owner will potentially benefit more from your increased productivity. And they should match your productivity increase by rewarding merit and compensating you for that. If you're in a work environment that reward merit and pays for higher productivity, the problem is with the place and you should move if your conditions permit. It's not an excuse to do the bare minimum and not strive to improve.
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skinnymuch 4y ago
No place in the US, at least, is valuing you for your work. They will always pay you less than you’re worth. That’s the point of capitalism. It’s easy to see how there’s an excuse to do the bare minimum when the company is paying you the bare minimum they are able to. The exploitation began with the capital rich employer paying the employee less than their worth.
maximinus_thrax 4y ago
> We should always be looking to improve and to make things more efficient. This is a core value of capitalism that people seem to forget. That's really not one of the core values of capitalism. But if we're talking about it, one of the core values of capitalism is self-interest, when people act in pursuit of their own good. Doing the bare minimum is peak capitalism. You need to minimize effort while maximizing gains. This is what companies are doing and it's something both 'the market' and society is totally fine with. But if you're an employee trying to apply the same principles in their context, all of a sudden, it's breaking social norms. > We should want to make things continuously better. Better in what way and for whom? A relaxed employee has more time to spend with family and also spend more money (which is a 'core value' of market capitalism).

adave 4y ago

Rub you wrong or more likely reduces money for the guy up the totem pole. Nihlistic is wanting someone else to work harder for nothing while another makes money of them.

_trackno5 4y ago
Of course the business owner will potentially benefit more from your increased productivity. And they should match your productivity increase by rewarding merit and compensating you for that. If you're in a work environment that reward merit and pays for higher productivity, the problem is with the place and you should move if your conditions permit. It's not an excuse to do the bare minimum and not strive to improve.
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skinnymuch 4y ago

No place in the US, at least, is valuing you for your work. They will always pay you less than you’re worth. That’s the point of capitalism. It’s easy to see how there’s an excuse to do the bare minimum when the company is paying you the bare minimum they are able to. The exploitation began with the capital rich employer paying the employee less than their worth.

maximinus_thrax 4y ago

> We should always be looking to improve and to make things more efficient. This is a core value of capitalism that people seem to forget. That's really not one of the core values of capitalism. But if we're talking about it, one of the core values of capitalism is self-interest, when people act in pursuit of their own good. Doing the bare minimum is peak capitalism. You need to minimize effort while maximizing gains. This is what companies are doing and it's something both 'the market' and society is totally fine with. But if you're an employee trying to apply the same principles in their context, all of a sudden, it's breaking social norms. > We should want to make things continuously better. Better in what way and for whom? A relaxed employee has more time to spend with family and also spend more money (which is a 'core value' of market capitalism).