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UK is not a part of the EU so it wouldn’t have to mesh at all unless I’m missing something?

giobox 4y ago
Sure, but its not that hard or expensive to hop a ferry/train/plane trip to France or Ireland and buy an unlocked phone, as one example. Any laws the UK passes have to account for the geographical realities of its location. Just because the UK is no longer in the EU doesn't mean its not affected by many of its decisions, given the enormous volume of trade that will continue to occur between them.
- InCityDreams 4y ago
  >Any laws the UK passes have to account for the geographical realities of its location. The sun never sets.....
  - giobox 4y ago
    And the Channel between England and France is a mere 20 miles at its narrowest point, Ireland is 12 (the UK's nearest EU neighbors). You can argue it down to zero miles for Ireland if you start your journey in Northern Ireland. The sun absolutely does set on what little is left of the "British Empire" in the 21st century.
    - blibble 4y ago
      > The sun absolutely does set on what little is left of the "British Empire" in the 21st century. I suggest you look at the locations of the British Overseas Territories
      - giobox 4y ago
        The famous phrase was as much about the relative geo-political strength of the empire in the 18th and 19th centuries as much as it has to do with actually being able to see a sunset... but feel free to take it literally if you like.
        blibble 4y ago
        this subthread is literally about geography
        giobox 4y ago
        Its literally about the quote widely used to generally describe the nature of 19th century British power, but ok! > The sun never sets... > https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-empire-on-which-the-sun-never-sets.html https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-empire-on-which-the-...
- lozenge 4y ago
  What happens when you get stopped and searched in the UK (probable cause isn't a factor here) and they find a "special encryption" phone?
  - giobox 4y ago
    I hate to break the bad news, but people break laws all the time, including in the UK. People will just manage the risk exactly like any other law they choose to ignore. Criminals still carry blades as weapons in the UK, despite it being a strict liability crime and at risk of stop and search.
skissane 4y ago
Some EU laws apply in Northern Ireland - I don’t know about laws in this area specifically. If a phone is legal in the EU, the UK may be required under the Northern Ireland Protocol (and the new “Windsor Framework”) to allow it in Northern Ireland. If they have to make a phone legal in Northern Ireland, it will be very hard to ban it in England, Scotland and Wales

Sure, but its not that hard or expensive to hop a ferry/train/plane trip to France or Ireland and buy an unlocked phone, as one example. Any laws the UK passes have to account for the geographical realities of its location. Just because the UK is no longer in the EU doesn't mean its not affected by many of its decisions, given the enormous volume of trade that will continue to occur between them.

InCityDreams 4y ago
>Any laws the UK passes have to account for the geographical realities of its location. The sun never sets.....
- giobox 4y ago
  And the Channel between England and France is a mere 20 miles at its narrowest point, Ireland is 12 (the UK's nearest EU neighbors). You can argue it down to zero miles for Ireland if you start your journey in Northern Ireland. The sun absolutely does set on what little is left of the "British Empire" in the 21st century.
  - blibble 4y ago
    > The sun absolutely does set on what little is left of the "British Empire" in the 21st century. I suggest you look at the locations of the British Overseas Territories
    - giobox 4y ago
      The famous phrase was as much about the relative geo-political strength of the empire in the 18th and 19th centuries as much as it has to do with actually being able to see a sunset... but feel free to take it literally if you like.
      - blibble 4y ago
        this subthread is literally about geography
        giobox 4y ago
        Its literally about the quote widely used to generally describe the nature of 19th century British power, but ok! > The sun never sets... > https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-empire-on-which-the-sun-never-sets.html https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-empire-on-which-the-...
lozenge 4y ago
What happens when you get stopped and searched in the UK (probable cause isn't a factor here) and they find a "special encryption" phone?
- giobox 4y ago
  I hate to break the bad news, but people break laws all the time, including in the UK. People will just manage the risk exactly like any other law they choose to ignore. Criminals still carry blades as weapons in the UK, despite it being a strict liability crime and at risk of stop and search.

skissane 4y ago

Some EU laws apply in Northern Ireland - I don’t know about laws in this area specifically. If a phone is legal in the EU, the UK may be required under the Northern Ireland Protocol (and the new “Windsor Framework”) to allow it in Northern Ireland. If they have to make a phone legal in Northern Ireland, it will be very hard to ban it in England, Scotland and Wales