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Another country where nationalized healthcare is a bad idea.
by hummus_bae 4y ago
Another country where nationalized healthcare is a bad idea.
- blibble 4y agoI think you'll find most insurance policies have a maximum
- nivenkos 4y agoBut healthcare isn't nationalised in Ireland. Was that your point?
- shadowgovt 4y agoNot sure I follow. It's not like a therapy with a sticker price of $3.8 million is more available in countries without nationalized healthcare.
- refurb 4y agoSure it is. Look at the Blue Cross Blue Shield plan for Michigan. It covers a number of gene therapies at a cost of $2.2M for one of them. Not all European countries pay for it. https://www.bcbsm.com/amslibs/content/dam/public/employers/documents/share-resources-employees/pharmacy-program-documents/gene-cellular-therapy.pdf https://www.bcbsm.com/amslibs/content/dam/public/employers/d...
- concordDance 4y agoYou can get private insurance in Europe too.
- refurb 4y agoFor gene therapy? The economics would never work out unless premiums were sky high or the insurance is mandatory or across most of your population. It only works if premiums are spread across a large population so a $2.5M therapy becomes a $1 increase in premium for 2.5M people.
- mrtksn 4y agoIn Europe they have these things called planes, it's like a tube you enter and sit for a few hours and once exit you are in a driving distance to American hospitals where you can pay and receive the same treatment as everyone else without nationalised healthcare. Best of the both worlds.
- gambiting 4y agoWhat's more, Europe also has these private hospitals which aren't connected to the national healthcare system and which will provide you with top level care if you are willing to pay, no travel to US necessary. Private health insurance (gasp!) is also a thing, should you want to partake in that system.
- vidarh 4y agoIndeed. In the UK at least there are a number of private hospitals largely marketed towards international customers where it'd be cheaper for American to come for treatment in many instances compared to getting treatment in the US.
- woobar 4y agoYou are saying that on top of paying for public healthcare (through taxes) europeans are allowed (gasp!) to pay extra for private care?
- mrtksn 4y agoOf course we are, that’s how a mole was removed when someone was playing harp for me. So, depending on where you are, private healthcare means the government pays their share and you pay the rest through an insurance or directly. Again depending on where you are the insured is often provided by your employer, so if you happen to get ill you can have your treatment in a luxury.
- mckravchyk 4y agoEurope consists of many countries, and one of them is more than happy to take 9% / 5% of your income in exchange for one quite crappy public health care system - think whenever you need to see a specialist, you have to pay with your own money anyway (or wait months, years to get an appointment). If you want private health insurance, you have to fund the super expensive good for nothing public one anyway.
- ta1243 4y agoYes there's no way the UK would have this therapy /s