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> “For me, as an immunologist, the fact that there's this natural immune receptor that we didn't know about, that's lining our lungs and blocks and controls vir

> “For me, as an immunologist, the fact that there's this natural immune receptor that we didn't know about, that's lining our lungs and blocks and controls virus, that's crazy interesting. So natural immunity is a real thing.

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genewitch 4y ago
In February or March of 2020 there were two interesting and not well distributed studies. That of immunity of heavy smokers - and/or those who were heavy smokers but had quit, and the other was about the effects of hibiscus on the mucosal lining of the lungs preventing respiratory infection. I'm overburdened right now, I can't deal with any more COVID studies. But when I read the title and seeing some comments I wonder if the prior art is related.
Mountain_Skies 4y ago
It was a wildly popular view here on Hacker New at the height of covid hysteria that even those with natural immunity should still be forced to get whatever injections the governments deemed necessary because "it makes the paperwork easier to track if everyone is required and there is ZERO RISK! ABSOLUTELY ZERO RISK!!!!" There are still a few holdouts here on naturally acquired immunity being inferior to being given the injections but most of them hinge on a theoretical fraction of a percentage increase in potential protection from having both or upset at the prospect that someone might lie about having had covid previously and use it as an excuse to not get injected. Mostly those who rushed headfirst into mindless authoritarianism are trying to pretend they never participated in the hysteria.
- tadfisher 4y ago
  Let's not pretend: it was a wildly popular view since the invention of vaccines, because the central thesis of vaccination is a numbers game; an epidemic or pandemic can be stopped once the immunity of a population reaches a certain threshold. This was recognized in 1905 with the Jacobson v Massachusetts decision, in the 1950s-1960s with mass polio immunization (resulting in the deaths of hundreds of children to prevent the infection of hundreds of thousands in the US), and today with required MMR vaccines to attend public schools. The view that one should be able to opt out of vaccination programs is the novel one.

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genewitch 4y ago

In February or March of 2020 there were two interesting and not well distributed studies. That of immunity of heavy smokers - and/or those who were heavy smokers but had quit, and the other was about the effects of hibiscus on the mucosal lining of the lungs preventing respiratory infection. I'm overburdened right now, I can't deal with any more COVID studies. But when I read the title and seeing some comments I wonder if the prior art is related.

Mountain_Skies 4y ago

It was a wildly popular view here on Hacker New at the height of covid hysteria that even those with natural immunity should still be forced to get whatever injections the governments deemed necessary because "it makes the paperwork easier to track if everyone is required and there is ZERO RISK! ABSOLUTELY ZERO RISK!!!!" There are still a few holdouts here on naturally acquired immunity being inferior to being given the injections but most of them hinge on a theoretical fraction of a percentage increase in potential protection from having both or upset at the prospect that someone might lie about having had covid previously and use it as an excuse to not get injected. Mostly those who rushed headfirst into mindless authoritarianism are trying to pretend they never participated in the hysteria.

tadfisher 4y ago
Let's not pretend: it was a wildly popular view since the invention of vaccines, because the central thesis of vaccination is a numbers game; an epidemic or pandemic can be stopped once the immunity of a population reaches a certain threshold. This was recognized in 1905 with the Jacobson v Massachusetts decision, in the 1950s-1960s with mass polio immunization (resulting in the deaths of hundreds of children to prevent the infection of hundreds of thousands in the US), and today with required MMR vaccines to attend public schools. The view that one should be able to opt out of vaccination programs is the novel one.