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what's an offer that would make you come in more regularly?

by bil7 4y ago

blackshaw 4y ago
"Come to the office or you're fired".
esel2k 4y ago
For me it would be: Once a month or twice a month we have dedicated inperson time (no teams/zoom). If you need to travel we pay accommodations and travel. For me: I like to be in the office max 2 days a week but commute is the deal breaker. Culture can be achieved without fixed days but dedicated days.
vidarh 4y ago
For my part: Pay me for the commute, let me come in and leave outside of rush hours, and give me an individual office OR accept that any time in the office will be mostly social / catch up's rather than productive time. If you want me there more than a couple of days a week, you need to pay even more above the commute, as it also costs me flexibility.
orwin 4y ago
A gym (that propose rock climbing) at 5 minutes from my desk for my two-hours lunch break. Showers, Spices and a place to cook the days i'm not at the gym, Office with doors (idc if i have to share it with one or two coworkers), Less than 20 minutes commute by bike, Double screen (as i can bring my mouses and keyboards, but not my computer screens).
hnthrowaway1827 4y ago
Nothing would make me come back. I'm a contractor, which makes my approach a bit easier, but last year I realized that my main client was going to fail in their effort to get people to return to the office, and I just moved overseas. Since then I've just spent my time travelling around, working from basically any place I want. Even with the travel, my living expenses have plummeted, and I now pay 0% income tax, which has almost doubled my income. My clients would have to more than double my remuneration for me to breakeven on returning to the office, and even then I wouldn't be prepared to give up the new lifestyle.
- jsjohnst 4y ago
  > I now pay 0% income tax Almost assuredly you are now accruing a huge debt to one or more governments. It’s not an if, but when.
  - hnthrowaway1827 4y ago
    Nonsense. There are plenty of governments that offer 0% income tax, in either all circumstances, or some more limited set of circumstances, and I am now a tax resident of one of those. I would have some level of tax burden at home if I happened to be a citizen of one of the two countries in the world that taxed all of their citizens worldwide income, but I am not, so I don't. My home government even has a tax treaty with my current country of residence that guarantees they will make no attempt to tax my income as long as I am a tax resident here. In addition to the existing 0% tax countries, a number of countries have now started offering visas that come with either 0% or a very low tax on foreign income, specifically to attract remote workers. It's really quite simple to situate yourself to pay no taxes as a remote worker. Nearly every country in the world allows their citizens to move their tax residency to another country. You only have to worry about bending the rules if you don't actually leave the country who's tax system you're trying to escape.
Hellmitioksldf 4y ago
For me it would be 50-100k per year extra after tax. This way i would accept office work for the next 5 years and than just quit socieity with the saved money. Buy myself my farm i want without credit and than only working smaller remote jobs for social security and health care and upkeep but also only 20h or less
- nivenkos 4y ago
  Jesus, as Europoor I don't even get 50k after tax as a senior engineer at the moment. I agree though putting up with commuting again would need to be well rewarded.
DonsDiscountGas 4y ago
For me: either a 100% raise, or a 30% raise + my own private office with a door that closes. I can't imagine the company will benefit enough to justify these costs.

what's an offer that would make you come in more regularly?

by bil7 4y ago

what's an offer that would make you come in more regularly?

blackshaw 4y ago

"Come to the office or you're fired".

esel2k 4y ago

For me it would be: Once a month or twice a month we have dedicated inperson time (no teams/zoom). If you need to travel we pay accommodations and travel. For me: I like to be in the office max 2 days a week but commute is the deal breaker. Culture can be achieved without fixed days but dedicated days.

vidarh 4y ago

For my part: Pay me for the commute, let me come in and leave outside of rush hours, and give me an individual office OR accept that any time in the office will be mostly social / catch up's rather than productive time. If you want me there more than a couple of days a week, you need to pay even more above the commute, as it also costs me flexibility.

orwin 4y ago

A gym (that propose rock climbing) at 5 minutes from my desk for my two-hours lunch break. Showers, Spices and a place to cook the days i'm not at the gym, Office with doors (idc if i have to share it with one or two coworkers), Less than 20 minutes commute by bike, Double screen (as i can bring my mouses and keyboards, but not my computer screens).

hnthrowaway1827 4y ago

Nothing would make me come back. I'm a contractor, which makes my approach a bit easier, but last year I realized that my main client was going to fail in their effort to get people to return to the office, and I just moved overseas. Since then I've just spent my time travelling around, working from basically any place I want. Even with the travel, my living expenses have plummeted, and I now pay 0% income tax, which has almost doubled my income. My clients would have to more than double my remuneration for me to breakeven on returning to the office, and even then I wouldn't be prepared to give up the new lifestyle.

jsjohnst 4y ago
> I now pay 0% income tax Almost assuredly you are now accruing a huge debt to one or more governments. It’s not an if, but when.
- hnthrowaway1827 4y ago
  Nonsense. There are plenty of governments that offer 0% income tax, in either all circumstances, or some more limited set of circumstances, and I am now a tax resident of one of those. I would have some level of tax burden at home if I happened to be a citizen of one of the two countries in the world that taxed all of their citizens worldwide income, but I am not, so I don't. My home government even has a tax treaty with my current country of residence that guarantees they will make no attempt to tax my income as long as I am a tax resident here. In addition to the existing 0% tax countries, a number of countries have now started offering visas that come with either 0% or a very low tax on foreign income, specifically to attract remote workers. It's really quite simple to situate yourself to pay no taxes as a remote worker. Nearly every country in the world allows their citizens to move their tax residency to another country. You only have to worry about bending the rules if you don't actually leave the country who's tax system you're trying to escape.

Hellmitioksldf 4y ago

For me it would be 50-100k per year extra after tax. This way i would accept office work for the next 5 years and than just quit socieity with the saved money. Buy myself my farm i want without credit and than only working smaller remote jobs for social security and health care and upkeep but also only 20h or less

nivenkos 4y ago
Jesus, as Europoor I don't even get 50k after tax as a senior engineer at the moment. I agree though putting up with commuting again would need to be well rewarded.

DonsDiscountGas 4y ago

For me: either a 100% raise, or a 30% raise + my own private office with a door that closes. I can't imagine the company will benefit enough to justify these costs.