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First let me thank you for a thoughtful riposte! I do appreciate that. My question was an honest one and I imagine, not the easiest to conceive an answer to. I

First let me thank you for a thoughtful riposte! I do appreciate that. My question was an honest one and I imagine, not the easiest to conceive an answer to. I genuinely appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts. With that said almost every use-case cited was financial or monetary gain whereas I enquired about social utility and value. That dishonesty ie creation of a fake avatar is cited as being of social utility strikes me as a reach. I don’t see how adding more dishonesty and facades to the world adds social value, but then I may just be of limited imagination.

pjc50 4y ago
> every use-case cited was financial or monetary gain whereas I enquired about social utility and value. Oh, right. I think the unfortunate answer is that nobody cares about that distinction any more and only about the former.
nyanpasu64 4y ago
I would appreciate being able to morph my appearance and voice on video calls, into something more reflective of my identity (facial structure, hair color, cat ears) than the body I was provided by circumstances.
UncleEntity 4y ago
> With that said almost every use-case cited was financial or monetary gain whereas I enquired about social utility and value. It could allow people to petition their government [0] without having someone bust down their door at 3am and disappear forever. [0] Which is apparently important enough to have been included in the bill of rights
- lonelyasacloud 4y ago
  > It could allow people to petition their government [0] without having someone bust down their door at 3am and disappear forever. Surely just wearing a mask - virtual or otherwise - does the job without the deep fakery?
  - UncleEntity 4y ago
    No doubt, but they wanted a non-capitalistic reason why this technology isn’t The Debil. And having subtle clues from watching a person’s face while they’re proposing whatever action to overthrow the patriarchy is more convincing than some random person wearing a Guy Fawkes mask talking about revolution for the umpteenth time.
    - kefka_p 4y ago
      Whoa, whoa, I never claimed the technology was the “debil”. I merely asked for examples of viable, moral, unique uses of this tech.

pjc50 4y ago

> every use-case cited was financial or monetary gain whereas I enquired about social utility and value. Oh, right. I think the unfortunate answer is that nobody cares about that distinction any more and only about the former.

nyanpasu64 4y ago

I would appreciate being able to morph my appearance and voice on video calls, into something more reflective of my identity (facial structure, hair color, cat ears) than the body I was provided by circumstances.

UncleEntity 4y ago

> With that said almost every use-case cited was financial or monetary gain whereas I enquired about social utility and value. It could allow people to petition their government [0] without having someone bust down their door at 3am and disappear forever. [0] Which is apparently important enough to have been included in the bill of rights

lonelyasacloud 4y ago
> It could allow people to petition their government [0] without having someone bust down their door at 3am and disappear forever. Surely just wearing a mask - virtual or otherwise - does the job without the deep fakery?
- UncleEntity 4y ago
  No doubt, but they wanted a non-capitalistic reason why this technology isn’t The Debil. And having subtle clues from watching a person’s face while they’re proposing whatever action to overthrow the patriarchy is more convincing than some random person wearing a Guy Fawkes mask talking about revolution for the umpteenth time.
  - kefka_p 4y ago
    Whoa, whoa, I never claimed the technology was the “debil”. I merely asked for examples of viable, moral, unique uses of this tech.