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This war/conflict actually began back in 2014, after Yanukovich was overthrown. The simple solution is to honor the Minsk Agreement and allow the Donbas to vote

This war/conflict actually began back in 2014, after Yanukovich was overthrown. The simple solution is to honor the Minsk Agreement and allow the Donbas to vote on whether or not they want to join Russia. Merkel has stated that there was never any intention to allow the Donbas to vote. The purpose was to buy time to build up Ukraine's army. So the negotiation was in bad faith. It is false that this war would end tomorrow if Putin ordered his troops back into Russia. Again the simple solution is to honor the Minsk Agreement.

dragontamer 4y ago
> The simple solution is to honor the Minsk Agreement and allow the Donbas to vote on whether or not they want to join Russia Why did Russia invade, kill, and kidnap citizens before such a vote? Its pretty obvious that what Russia is doing here is simple colonialism and imperialism. Russia wants Ukraine. It started by gobbling up Crimea, and moved on to to take Donbas and other such territories. Last year, I've had plenty of Russian sympathizers tell me how peace-loving you all are, especially with your "Slavic Brothers". And it was all proven false upon the brutal attack on Kyiv on Feburary 2022. ------- > It is false that this war would end tomorrow if Putin ordered his troops back into Russia. The hostilities of Feb 2022 through today started when Putin crossed into Ukraine. It will end when Putin retreats his army back into Russia. ----- > Again the simple solution is to honor the Minsk Agreement. And the first step to that agreement was a ceasefire. And that ceasefire was utterly demolished when Russia attacked Kyiv. Putin DESTROYED that agreement with the Feb. 2022 attack. You realize that? The conditions of ceasefire will never again return, not until the Russian army is out of Ukraine.
- ihatepython 4y ago
  Do you believe that Pearl Harbor was an unprovoked attack?
testrun 4y ago
In 1994 Russia signed the Budapest agreement where it guaranteed the independence of Ukraine. Ukraine had to transfer all it's nukes to Russia to honour it's side of the agreement. Which it did. Ukraine's borders included Donbas and Crimea. Why did Russia reneged on that agreement? Talking about the Donbas, why has the Donbas right to sovereignty, but not Chechnia?
- ihatepython 4y ago
  At the Munich Security Conference, Kamala Harris said that Ukraine should join NATO. That violates the Budapest agreement. A few days later, Putin invades Ukraine. Back in 2014, after Yanukovich was overthrown, the US installed an unelected government in Ukraine, which immediately began attacking the Donbas region.
  - dragontamer 4y ago
    We literally have the satellite footage of Russians building up on the border in December 2021. It's the internet today. Public companies have easy to use satellites. The invasion plans were already in place long before that statement. ---- I know this because when I saw those troop movements published, I started to buy oil stock. I've made a profit from my prediction. I knew Russia was not to be trusted and that a war could break out. > which immediately began attacking the Donbas region. Donbas was, and is, owned by Ukraine. But nevermind that. The other poster already has the answer for you. > Talking about the Donbas, why has the Donbas right to sovereignty, but not Chechnia?
    - ihatepython 4y ago
      The Ukrainian government may be the most corrupt government in the world. The Ukrainian nazis were far worse than the German nazis in WWII, and they were never held accountable for their actions. Hunter Biden's laptop has been covered up. I have no desire for WWIII, but it is clear that is where we are headed. NATO has no desire to seek a peaceful resolution. They want war. Ukrainians are consumed by their hatred of Russians, and most likely they will end up destroying themselves. Nothing the Ukrainians say has any basis in logic, they are consumed by hatred. It is like that episode of Seinfeld, Newman and Kramer are playing Risk, and Newman says 'I am not defeated yet, I still have armies in the Ukraine'
      - dragontamer 4y ago
        > The Ukrainian nazis were far worse than the German nazis in WWII Uh huh. 1. Zelensky is Jewish. 2. How many millions of Jews have the Ukrainians killed? 3. How many millions of Slavs have the Ukrainians killed? Ah right... no where close to the Nazis. Your hyperbole is noted, but there's a little law here on the internet called Goodwin's law. The moment someone starts talking about Nazis on the internet, you know that they're at the end of their argument and have no facts backing them up.

dragontamer 4y ago

> The simple solution is to honor the Minsk Agreement and allow the Donbas to vote on whether or not they want to join Russia Why did Russia invade, kill, and kidnap citizens before such a vote? Its pretty obvious that what Russia is doing here is simple colonialism and imperialism. Russia wants Ukraine. It started by gobbling up Crimea, and moved on to to take Donbas and other such territories. Last year, I've had plenty of Russian sympathizers tell me how peace-loving you all are, especially with your "Slavic Brothers". And it was all proven false upon the brutal attack on Kyiv on Feburary 2022. ------- > It is false that this war would end tomorrow if Putin ordered his troops back into Russia. The hostilities of Feb 2022 through today started when Putin crossed into Ukraine. It will end when Putin retreats his army back into Russia. ----- > Again the simple solution is to honor the Minsk Agreement. And the first step to that agreement was a ceasefire. And that ceasefire was utterly demolished when Russia attacked Kyiv. Putin DESTROYED that agreement with the Feb. 2022 attack. You realize that? The conditions of ceasefire will never again return, not until the Russian army is out of Ukraine.

ihatepython 4y ago
Do you believe that Pearl Harbor was an unprovoked attack?

testrun 4y ago

In 1994 Russia signed the Budapest agreement where it guaranteed the independence of Ukraine. Ukraine had to transfer all it's nukes to Russia to honour it's side of the agreement. Which it did. Ukraine's borders included Donbas and Crimea. Why did Russia reneged on that agreement? Talking about the Donbas, why has the Donbas right to sovereignty, but not Chechnia?

ihatepython 4y ago
At the Munich Security Conference, Kamala Harris said that Ukraine should join NATO. That violates the Budapest agreement. A few days later, Putin invades Ukraine. Back in 2014, after Yanukovich was overthrown, the US installed an unelected government in Ukraine, which immediately began attacking the Donbas region.
- dragontamer 4y ago
  We literally have the satellite footage of Russians building up on the border in December 2021. It's the internet today. Public companies have easy to use satellites. The invasion plans were already in place long before that statement. ---- I know this because when I saw those troop movements published, I started to buy oil stock. I've made a profit from my prediction. I knew Russia was not to be trusted and that a war could break out. > which immediately began attacking the Donbas region. Donbas was, and is, owned by Ukraine. But nevermind that. The other poster already has the answer for you. > Talking about the Donbas, why has the Donbas right to sovereignty, but not Chechnia?
  - ihatepython 4y ago
    The Ukrainian government may be the most corrupt government in the world. The Ukrainian nazis were far worse than the German nazis in WWII, and they were never held accountable for their actions. Hunter Biden's laptop has been covered up. I have no desire for WWIII, but it is clear that is where we are headed. NATO has no desire to seek a peaceful resolution. They want war. Ukrainians are consumed by their hatred of Russians, and most likely they will end up destroying themselves. Nothing the Ukrainians say has any basis in logic, they are consumed by hatred. It is like that episode of Seinfeld, Newman and Kramer are playing Risk, and Newman says 'I am not defeated yet, I still have armies in the Ukraine'
    - dragontamer 4y ago
      > The Ukrainian nazis were far worse than the German nazis in WWII Uh huh. 1. Zelensky is Jewish. 2. How many millions of Jews have the Ukrainians killed? 3. How many millions of Slavs have the Ukrainians killed? Ah right... no where close to the Nazis. Your hyperbole is noted, but there's a little law here on the internet called Goodwin's law. The moment someone starts talking about Nazis on the internet, you know that they're at the end of their argument and have no facts backing them up.