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Well to be fair how often is chocolate actually chocolate flavor? One of the cafés I jokingly call it the "luxury space communist café" (since it recently unio

Well to be fair how often is chocolate actually chocolate flavor? One of the cafés I jokingly call it the "luxury space communist café" (since it recently unionized and is next to an electronics store and a buncha designer shops, which has an... interesting effect... on the customer base.) Anyways, when you set aside the decor and are willing to tolerate a dull roar of vocal fry until you can get your headphones in, it ends up being pretty damn conducive to getting some deep work done. (Water dispenser, power plugs, espresso as bitter as my soul ... I guess designing for the user is feminine? Insert roll eyes emoji here.) Anyways, they were selling these little squares of 100% dark cocoa and I got one with a crossoint since I was trying to cut back on the sweets and... yeah, they weren't kidding -- it's cocoa... not exactly sweet. Not all all in fact. Reading your post reminded me of how that felt like a rip off, when really they gave me exactly what was promised -- it's just that Americans think "milk chocolate" when others would expect... something else. So maybe sometimes they're not deceiving people, they're just trying to give them what they've conditioned them to want. (God forbid someone have a cortado, everyone has to have a donut the size of a newborn's head with more sugar than a can of coke and a coffee the size of a loaf of bread.)

brailsafe 4y ago
The high cocoa bars from Lindt or other brands are definitely a different vibe. I personally think they're pretty well differentiated here though, with a gigantic 70% or 95% on the front. But if you're unfamiliar with that type of flavour it would be a shock to the system and isn't really my vibe. I guess they're hoping you attribute more quality to them, but the flavor is so different that I'd have a hard time imagining someone wouldn't think of it as a completely different type of chocolate. I guess what you're saying holds true for a lot of things, like people thinking that bitter dark roasted coffee being associated with quality, when it's often the opposite. I guess that would fall into somewhat misleading marketing influences though, whereas I'm thinking more along the lines of showing chocolate and calling it chocolate when in reality there isn't even cocoa in it at all, just palm oil. I agree about the cortado, it bothers me how much sugar people get in their system without realizing quite how much or how bad it could be. If all the sugar you got was from an obvious dessert, you probably would have a hard time over-injesting it.
- nasmorn 4y ago
  Lindt are not hoping for anything. That’s simply how non mil chocolate tastes and they have made it since a long time ago. Apparently enough Americans have taking a liking to it so it is now distributed there as well. Even if all Americans stop buying Lindt will still make it but obviously not export it to the US.
- fallowkevin 4y ago
  >The high cocoa bars from Lindt or other brands are definitely a different vibe. I personally think they're pretty well differentiated here though, with a gigantic 70% or 95% on the front. But if you're unfamiliar with that type of flavour it would be a shock to the system and isn't really my vibe. Yeah, I don't know if it's that that last 5% makes a difference or one too many cake donuts demolished my sense of taste, but the one I got was 100% cocoa and... just... not good. I'd have rather paired my quad espresso with a savory hard boiled egg. But, thankfully, it was just one teensy square, so I guess the experiment was worth it for the price -- I'd have been much less amused if I'd dropped a lincoln on that thing ;-) >I guess what you're saying holds true for a lot of things, like people thinking that bitter dark roasted coffee being associated with quality, when it's often the opposite. I started getting espresso partly because I do want bitter... but I also don't really chance getting a light roast anymore, half because it'll make me too amped but also half because when I do shell out for it, it's rarely good. (I'm a big fan of Philz, and pourover in general, but there aren't really pour over coffee shops in my area and I'd rather keep it that way than import more Californians.) >I agree about the cortado, it bothers me how much sugar people get in their system without realizing quite how much or how bad it could be. If all the sugar you got was from an obvious dessert, you probably would have a hard time over-injesting it. I used to have an eating disorder -- I was quite heavy, and studied book after book on how to be social because I wanted a partner... turns out you seem much more charming when you're not 240lbs. People get so... obsessed with metrics, I suspect it's why studies show sociopaths love black coffee. I see a lot of midwesterners that I suspect have basically induced dementia by not managing diabetes. Meanwhile, if I go down to the local gas station masquerading as a grocery store and try to make a healthy decision, I literally cannot buy a greek yogurt unless it's got fake strawberry or blueberry or whatever in it. The Wikipedia article of the day was "Nazi persecution of homosexuals" for Holocaust Rememberance Day yesterday, and it's amazing how many people who have erased "gay" as an insult will continue to view making healthy choices as some kind of tell you're queer. Maybe it is, but it's darkly hilarious to watch folks induce brain rot to avoid lookin' gay, so sorry for a bit of a rant, but this nym, much like the texts I send on coffee shop wifi, will soon disappear when 24 hours have passed... and end up on a path where they will completely lose control of their minds and bodies as they panic that no one is obligated to be caregiver to an abuser. Anyways, sorry for the wall of text, but... I've had too much caffeine to power through some unpleasant todos, and since marijuana is not legal here I have no way to even out ;-) (A glass of white wine can help in that regard, but I quit drinking after HOPE went online that one summer. It sure took a lot of effort to convince people Defcon was like, seriously canceled, please, no really, do not come to Defcon it is online stay in your apartments you weird ass hick-i-mori)

brailsafe 4y ago

The high cocoa bars from Lindt or other brands are definitely a different vibe. I personally think they're pretty well differentiated here though, with a gigantic 70% or 95% on the front. But if you're unfamiliar with that type of flavour it would be a shock to the system and isn't really my vibe. I guess they're hoping you attribute more quality to them, but the flavor is so different that I'd have a hard time imagining someone wouldn't think of it as a completely different type of chocolate. I guess what you're saying holds true for a lot of things, like people thinking that bitter dark roasted coffee being associated with quality, when it's often the opposite. I guess that would fall into somewhat misleading marketing influences though, whereas I'm thinking more along the lines of showing chocolate and calling it chocolate when in reality there isn't even cocoa in it at all, just palm oil. I agree about the cortado, it bothers me how much sugar people get in their system without realizing quite how much or how bad it could be. If all the sugar you got was from an obvious dessert, you probably would have a hard time over-injesting it.

nasmorn 4y ago
Lindt are not hoping for anything. That’s simply how non mil chocolate tastes and they have made it since a long time ago. Apparently enough Americans have taking a liking to it so it is now distributed there as well. Even if all Americans stop buying Lindt will still make it but obviously not export it to the US.
fallowkevin 4y ago
>The high cocoa bars from Lindt or other brands are definitely a different vibe. I personally think they're pretty well differentiated here though, with a gigantic 70% or 95% on the front. But if you're unfamiliar with that type of flavour it would be a shock to the system and isn't really my vibe. Yeah, I don't know if it's that that last 5% makes a difference or one too many cake donuts demolished my sense of taste, but the one I got was 100% cocoa and... just... not good. I'd have rather paired my quad espresso with a savory hard boiled egg. But, thankfully, it was just one teensy square, so I guess the experiment was worth it for the price -- I'd have been much less amused if I'd dropped a lincoln on that thing ;-) >I guess what you're saying holds true for a lot of things, like people thinking that bitter dark roasted coffee being associated with quality, when it's often the opposite. I started getting espresso partly because I do want bitter... but I also don't really chance getting a light roast anymore, half because it'll make me too amped but also half because when I do shell out for it, it's rarely good. (I'm a big fan of Philz, and pourover in general, but there aren't really pour over coffee shops in my area and I'd rather keep it that way than import more Californians.) >I agree about the cortado, it bothers me how much sugar people get in their system without realizing quite how much or how bad it could be. If all the sugar you got was from an obvious dessert, you probably would have a hard time over-injesting it. I used to have an eating disorder -- I was quite heavy, and studied book after book on how to be social because I wanted a partner... turns out you seem much more charming when you're not 240lbs. People get so... obsessed with metrics, I suspect it's why studies show sociopaths love black coffee. I see a lot of midwesterners that I suspect have basically induced dementia by not managing diabetes. Meanwhile, if I go down to the local gas station masquerading as a grocery store and try to make a healthy decision, I literally cannot buy a greek yogurt unless it's got fake strawberry or blueberry or whatever in it. The Wikipedia article of the day was "Nazi persecution of homosexuals" for Holocaust Rememberance Day yesterday, and it's amazing how many people who have erased "gay" as an insult will continue to view making healthy choices as some kind of tell you're queer. Maybe it is, but it's darkly hilarious to watch folks induce brain rot to avoid lookin' gay, so sorry for a bit of a rant, but this nym, much like the texts I send on coffee shop wifi, will soon disappear when 24 hours have passed... and end up on a path where they will completely lose control of their minds and bodies as they panic that no one is obligated to be caregiver to an abuser. Anyways, sorry for the wall of text, but... I've had too much caffeine to power through some unpleasant todos, and since marijuana is not legal here I have no way to even out ;-) (A glass of white wine can help in that regard, but I quit drinking after HOPE went online that one summer. It sure took a lot of effort to convince people Defcon was like, seriously canceled, please, no really, do not come to Defcon it is online stay in your apartments you weird ass hick-i-mori)