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Internet Archive takes down upload of BBC’s Modi documentary
- throwawayzxd 4y ago[flagged]
- themitigating 4y agoThis could just be a simple copyright situation.
- alephnerd 4y agoDefinitely is. I've tried watching and uploading more recent BBC documentaries onto platforms like Youtube and YouTube would be quickly to remove said copyright violation. It's deplorable how moneygrubbing the BBC has become while also being penny pinched. Heck, most of their more recent documentaries seem require partial co-producing with WGBH (PBS Boston) or KQED (PBS Bay Area) because stuff's expensive now. A sad financialization of a public good. Thank goodness Vietnam doesn't extradite and that there seems to be some organized crime nexus there around pirate streaming, otherwise all the pirate sites would have gone down.
- mschuster91 4y agoIt's likely not, per German newspaper Heise the Indian government has banned links to the movie under emergency powers, but it's not really clear why the IA copy got deleted [1]. [1] https://www.heise.de/news/Per-Notfallgesetz-Indien-sperrt-Modi-kritische-Doku-auf-Youtube-und-Twitter-7469063.html https://www.heise.de/news/Per-Notfallgesetz-Indien-sperrt-Mo...
- alephnerd 4y agoIf it was removed from youtube or IA based on the emergency laws, I'd be able to access them here in the US. Youtube would have invoked geoblocking to go in line with Indian regulations. The fact that the documentaries were deleted across 2 very distinct jurisdictions points to overzealous copyright management by the BBC
- mjfisher 4y agoIt's worth noting there's quite a distinct separation between the BBC and BBC Studios (which used to be called BBC Worldwide). The BBC is publicly funded via the UK's TV license. BBC Studios is entirely funded by its own profit. They're very careful to maintain the gap between the two. It's why so many BBC Studios productions can't be viewed on BBC's streaming platform domestically; the rights are managed and sold separately. It's not surprising to see partnerships with other production houses across their core markets.
- alephnerd 4y agoThat, actually makes sense. And explains why I can still watch older BBC docs (pre-2012) that were ripped onto youtube. Didn't the airgapping become much more strict when the Tories started pushing the "BBC profitability" schtick?
- reaperducer 4y agoSeems like a distinction without a difference. Just like Sesame Workshop making millions off of merchandising Sesame Street characters that were created with tax dollars from PBS and local PBS stations. And then, to make it even worse, new episodes of the program that was created with tax dollars to educate poor young people for free is now only available first-run to non-poor kids who subscribe to one particular streaming service. Are you a poor child? Tough. You can watch the reruns a few weeks later. Reruns of the shows that were funded with your parents' tax dollars.
- toyg 4y agoIt might be deplorable but it's totally expected - the BBC is constantly starved of money by Murdoch-friendly governments, so it had to find alternative income streams. I'd be happy to pay a TV license fee 100% higher than it is now, in exchange for a really-universal and non-profit BBC. I'd also be happy for Parliament to inject more money into it. Would you...?
- pokepim 4y agoI feel that India has been getting more and more authoritarian recently. What is happening over there?
- mschuster91 4y agoJohn Oliver did a segment about Modi two years ago [1]. tl;dw: Religious-nationalist bullshit. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVIXUhZ2AWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVIXUhZ2AWs
- Kenji 4y agoIs there any place on the entire planet that _hasn't_ become more authoritarian in the past, say, 5 years?
- atemerev 4y agoEverything’s fine here in Switzerland so far.
- kibwen 4y agoNote that archive.org is not an immutable store, and never has been. Website owners have always been able to ask for pages to be removed, personal data can be removed, and copyright holders can also ask to remove things.
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- LinuxBender 4y agoI've had mixed results with that. If I add a robots.txt entry to deny them, they do appear to stop displaying the cached content but then if long after the original content is gone from my site if I also park the domain and forget to maintain the robots.txt entry the cached content starts showing again meaning they never actually got rid of it but rather paused displaying it.
- danso 4y agoYou can definitely find entire BBC documentaries that have been uploaded to IA; there's an account named "BBC Video" that has nearly 1,000 videos uploaded [0]. However, not all the videos look like BBC content, and there's really no indicator that this account is actually affiliated with BBC. Its undisturbed existence on IA may be a result of the BBC not being particularly worried about the impact of IA's unauthorized distribution of its content. IA still seems to handle a lot of content moderation scenarios in a manual, old-fashioned sense, e.g. responding to direct requests by email, as opposed to having built out a form-based process. The article says it's unclear who requested the takedown. If the BBC did indeed ask for it on copyright grounds, it's possible that the current error message ("Items may be taken down for various reasons, including by decision of the uploader or due to a violation of our Terms of Use") is the catch-all message for all takedowns. If that's the case, it's probably time for IA to come up with a copyright-specific takedown message, so that relatively routine requests (e.g. BBC asserting ownership of copyrighted material) aren't conflated with much more nefarious scenarios (e.g. the suspicion that India's government is trying to censor damaging content) [0] https://archive.org/search?query=creator%3A%22BBC+Video%22 https://archive.org/search?query=creator%3A%22BBC+Video%22
- thomond 4y agoIt all seems to be old VHS uploads so for sure it's not official.
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- seltzered_ 4y agoAnother article with some context: https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/business-india/india-modi-bbc-documentary-twitter-youtube-censorship-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/business-india/india-modi-bbc...
- branon 4y agoIndia.The.Modi.Question.S01E01.1080p.WEBRip.x264-SKYFiRE or India.The.Modi.Question.S01E01.1080p.HDTV.H264-DARKFLiX have got you covered, though I am sure there are other sources as well. The Internet Archive does good work, but disappointingly appears to stop short of being a true "write-once, read-forever" archive. Your personal datastore is the only safe place. There's supposed to be a second episode too. Anyone know a release name for that? Maybe it's not out yet, haven't checked.
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- josephb 4y agoThe second episode appears to have appeared in the last few hours.
- honkler 4y agosomeone's going to learn about Streisand effect
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- IYasha 4y agoIA, WikiPedia and even arXiv are known to delete important data, sadly. I mean, you can't turn down CIA, can you?
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- theshrike79 4y agoI didn't want to watch this before, but now I'm _REALLY_ interested in seeing what it's about. Streisand Effect, here I come.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y agohttps://peertube.su/w/f15x5ghHXocFUL1bJk21Af https://peertube.su/w/f15x5ghHXocFUL1bJk21Af peertube link for those not in UK
- 2Gkashmiri 4y agowow. this is being downvoted like hell. why? you don't like views contrary to what the bug brother wants to project? fuck you
- paxys 4y agoTry to upload the latest Avatar film to Internet Archive and it will be taken down as well. This particular one is being called out to generate online outrage, nothing more.
- silentguy 4y agoI am sure the US government doesn't initiate the request to take down Avatar.
- alexander-wilms 4y ago[flagged]
- badcppdev 4y agoIt's not compulsory. It's quite legal to not pay TV Tax and not watch TV. You can use streaming services but not the on-demand services for the TV channels. I certainly do not miss the BBC news. I found it very bad for my stress levels.
- b3nji 4y agoAgreed, since we canceled our TV license two years ago, our stress levels have dropped, and happiness has jumped.
- paxys 4y agoIs everything produced in the UK automatically in the public domain?
- stuaxo 4y agoOriginally the BBC owned it's TV production, but it's not the case now. The TV production was hived off to private companies, who then license it to the BBC, so the BBC doesn't own lots of the content it (we, the UK public) paid for, they have licenses to it with varying terms. So; while it should be the case, in fact UK citizens get the er.. "opportunity" to pay for all sorts of the content again later, after it comes off iplayer.
- rwmj 4y agoLink on iPlayer (UK only, I believe): https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0dk9z6x/episodes/player https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0dk9z6x/episodes/player I wouldn't have been too interested in it before, but I sure am going to watch it now.
- vain 4y agomagnet link magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3C378A82CF67A1107523CA6C647077403A1EF74D&dn=India+The+Modi+Question+S01E01+1080p+HDTV+H264-DARKFLiX&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.dler.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.i2p.rocks%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F47.ip-51-68-199.eu%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.internetwarriors.net%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2920%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.pirateparty.gr%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.cyberia.is%3A6969%2Fannounce
- bscphil 4y agoYou can just post the hash portion of it. For a public torrent like this the trackers are effectively interchangeable and it makes for a messy, hard to copy URL.
- ComputerGuru 4y agoBBC's iPlayer is not letting me watch while connected to a VPN but this other link I found doesn't seem to care where you are magnet:?xt=urn:btih:F80DE3863CBFAA6465FDEC1B80777B7AA144C58D FYI The second (of two) episodes airs later today.
- datavirtue 4y agoThey won't let me read it with duckduck browser (claims it is due to an ad blocker). Not only are we suffering through a horrid application platform (browser, javascript and html) but the content on the web is super picky about how you view it. Broken AF. Janky shit.
- mohamedattahri 4y agoPerfect example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
- ayush--s 4y agothis "documentary" has already been on all national news in India for past 2-3 days, so this is not an example of Streisand effect. Most people who turn on TV once a day are aware of this.
- mohamedattahri 4y agoWell, now everyone outside of India wants to watch it as well.
- pelorat 4y agoThanks, I just Torrented S01E01
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