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If it's as privacy intrusive as the rest of its products I won't use it neither promote it. Its the main reason most non tech savys avoided buying Google home
by CommanderData 4y ago
If it's as privacy intrusive as the rest of its products I won't use it neither promote it.
Its the main reason most non tech savys avoided buying Google home. But the product teams are tone deaf.
Bring on a privacy first system/eco system!
- imoverclocked 4y agoApple has privacy in the forefront of its ecosystem.
- m463 4y agoApple has privacy in its marketing, but honestly they are intrusive in every way. Take a look at the processes or network traffic from any mac or iphone.
- hdhrufjdi 4y agoTake a look at their messaging service that they marketed for years as E2EE while it was closed source and uploaded the chat messages readable by Apple to the cloud
- agumonkey 4y agoweak encryption or clear format ?
- acdha 4y agoEncrypted with shared keys. This wasn’t accurately described in the comment you’re replying to: iMessage is fully E2E but the offload feature which allows you to save space on your phone wasn’t. That helps in the lost phone scenario but not if you’re worried about subpoenas under a hostile government. Prior to the recent advanced protection program, you could avoid that by not enabling backup for messages. Now you can choose whether data recovery is more important than E2E to you.
- tacker2000 4y agoOh come on, Apple has had numerous privacy issues as well. What about uploading every photo to their server to check for child porn? What about uploading every binary you run to their server to check if its “approved”? People really need to put down their “sheeple” glasses. Apple is a huge public company like all the others, beholden to profit their shareholders and thats it. All that virtue signalling that they do is just a smokescreen. They are not any better or worse than MS/Google/Amazon etc…
- namdnay 4y agoThe child porn check is to please the government, not shareholders
- imoverclocked 4y agoThis. Apple did this against its own interests as a privacy first company as a way to reduce a real world problem. Personal privacy has always been at odds with law enforcement and Apple is one company that has taken real steps to restrict the unimpeded flow of personal information into governments. The way the CSAM database and checking was implemented was still in a privacy preserving way that made every effort to restrict that same flow while not enabling child sexual exploitation.
- tacker2000 4y agoIs there any law that required Apple to do this? On a global scale even?
- imoverclocked 4y agoWhile I’m unsure of laws on a global scale, I do know that law enforcement has repeatedly and publicly pressured Apple for keys-to-the-kingdom style access to customer devices. The justification is often a case that seems unredeemable to the average Joe. I know this from articles that have previously hit HN’s front page.
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- charcircuit 4y agoYou are not their target audience.
- huggingmouth 4y agoApparently not a lot of others are either