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What's the alternative?

• astrodust 15y ago
  That's the sad part of the story.
• hanalei 15y ago
  concrete5 cms is pretty decent.
  • buro9 15y ago
    You may well be right, but I think you should have disclosed your status in the concrete5 community and the fact that you've contributed code to concrete5 and created the blog app. Mostly because as a first-time poster, no-one knows you here and it would be good to see some impartiality or at least a critical argument about what sets concrete5 apart in respect to addressing the concerns of the article.
    • hanalei 15y ago
      buro9, I guess I should have, but i merely stated that a CMS that i know and actively develop for vs. one that the OP is apparently unhappy with. I'm not a bot trying to funnel people into concrete5, I merely intended to provide an alternative without jumping down OP's throat with a canned "critical argument" because I am not a concrete5 evangelist or anything of that sort.
    • aftk2 15y ago
      Heh. I'm sure no one else posting in these threads has any sort of deep ties to the software they're recommending.
• FraaJad 15y ago
  Plone -- http://plone.org/ http://plone.org/
  • keithpeter 15y ago
    WordPress can be installed on hosted Web server space under a user account with no admin access. Plone needs admin rights and runs a daemon. Note: I'm not suggesting that the author's organisation did use WP that way. I agree with others above that the author could have mentioned alternatives.
    • FraaJad 15y ago
      If you want a CMS and know what a full fledged CMS does, you wouldn't even mention wordpress in the same sentence. Ease of install and being able to run on a $3/mo hosting plan is not the game CMSes play.
      • keithpeter 15y ago
        True, but WordPress can play that managed server game, and we know little of what kinds of installation the author was talking about. PS: I was thinking more £30 to £100/month with someone else handling the platform...
• zalew 15y ago
  Write spec, hire dev, build your own.
  • antidaily 15y ago
    I can't think of a bigger waste of time. That is, unless you've somehow convinced a client to pay you to do it.
    • buremba 15y ago
      I suggest Drupal for huge projects but in many case Drupal is so advanced for creating a medium-sized project. For the beginning it may be hard but when you created your CMS or a CMS framework (I would prefer calling CMS framework for such a system), you will found it's incredibly flexible and easy (in many cases) to setup a new project as Drupal or any other CMS.
    • zalew 15y ago
      your second sentence answers your doubts from the first.
• JTxt 15y ago
  Drupal. (Although it has it share of cons too, it can do many of the items on the list. Some require coercing, but doable.) edit, in progress: - Document management- No, not Word, Excel files etc. but can do revisions/diffs on site content, and manage files to some degree. - Workflow management- http://drupal.org/project/workflow http://drupal.org/project/workflow - Digital asset management- http://drupal.org/project/media http://drupal.org/project/media - Link management - http://drupal.org/project/pathauto http://drupal.org/project/pathauto and others... not sure what you need here. - User management - Default may do what you need, can do more. - ESI Caching / CDN ability. - (no esi in drupal 7) / http://drupal.org/project/cdn http://drupal.org/project/cdn - WYSIWYG editing- Many options but sometimes flaky. - Single Sign-on- http://drupal.org/project/bakery http://drupal.org/project/bakery - Multi-side Admin - Not sure. Different user groups can have different access. - Publishing options - Quite a few. what do you need? - Access Management - http://drupal.org/project/acl http://drupal.org/project/acl and more. - Application - ? - Multi-lingual - http://drupal.org/project/i18n http://drupal.org/project/i18n - n-to-n content sharing- user to user sharing? - Reporting - what kind? Disclaimer: I've used it for a few projects; More experience than word-press or joomla.
  • Ecio78 15y ago
    Disclaimer: i've used Drupal for a couple of projects and I like it for its easyness for noncoder, this is just about the cons: Drupal is very good and powerful (i think the best part is the ability to create custom contents with CCK - now included in core in D7), surely more "CMS" than WP, but it's far from being perfect. As someone wrote in another comment, sometimes it's a nightmare (theming or just finding the right module and hoping it wont give you problems with other modules). There are also people saying it has become more and more overbloated http://www.unleashedmind.com/en/blog/sun/the-drupal-crisis http://www.unleashedmind.com/en/blog/sun/the-drupal-crisis others stating that it's better to move to more developing oriented framework: http://erickennedy.org/Drupal-7-Reasons-to-Switch http://erickennedy.org/Drupal-7-Reasons-to-Switch and big consulting company that has worked with Drupal and is now moving to other: http://drupalradar.com/breaking-development-seed-quits-drupal http://drupalradar.com/breaking-development-seed-quits-drupa... I think every single CMS/platform/framework can be criticized or even demonized if you search well.
• dlapiduz 15y ago
  Concrete5 is a pretty cool new CMS that has a lot of the features that this guy asks for. http://www.concrete5.org/ http://www.concrete5.org/
  • aftk2 15y ago
    Thanks! Appreciate the mention. We try to bring some new approaches to the open source cms space. (note: I'm the core team leader of concrete5)
• bobfunk 15y ago
  We're working hard at building the best fully hosted one at http://www.webpop.com http://www.webpop.com Our aim is to get close to the power of something like Drupal with a simple and usable interface that's a joy to use. All fully hosted, requiring no maintenance. We're the only hosted system that is also truly extendible (you can build extensions in server-side javascript) and we're seeing both tiny one-pages and large content driven pages being built with our product by now.
• stef25 15y ago
  I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Expression Engine yet and am curious to hear people's opinions about it.
  • mknx 15y ago
    Suggested using EE before for a few clients. They turned down because of the license and hassle to renew it.
    • nathos 15y ago
      EE simplified their license with version 2, and there is no ongoing/renewal license fee: http://expressionengine.com/sales_faq/article/do_i_have_to_buy_a_new_license_every_year http://expressionengine.com/sales_faq/article/do_i_have_to_b...
      • mknx 15y ago
        This was for 2.0. Back then it was 1.6. No longer look at EE these days, just make use of FuelPHP.
  • wonderyak 15y ago
    A lot of us would love to be able to chime in on EE, I'm sure. Not having a downloadable demo or some way of checking out without paying $200 makes it way lower down the list when you're looking for alternatives. I would love to check it out; but if I don't like it or it won't work for my clients it's a total hassle.
    • timmaah 15y ago
      Not having a demo available is beyond ridiculous. I asked about it in their forums and was told to email sales. I went ahead with the purchase anyway. It would not take much for them to setup a personal sandbox demo just like spree commerce does ( http://spreecommerce.com/demo http://spreecommerce.com/demo ) It can't be that they don't want people to think the product is too complicated before purchase, as their after purchase help docs are limited and they have no personal follow up or checkin.
• spohlenz 15y ago
  I recently released the first version of Wheelhouse CMS - https://www.wheelhousecms.com https://www.wheelhousecms.com, which is a Rails-based CMS including WYSIWYG editing, template-based form generation, media library, plugins and a decent UI. It's not free software but from my biased perspective its by far the best CMS I've ever used and my clients love it. Demo here: http://demo.wheelhousecms.com http://demo.wheelhousecms.com