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So, you are saying that increasing the supply of housing in this case actually would cause an increase in prices? How would that work? I agree that there is no

So, you are saying that increasing the supply of housing in this case actually would cause an increase in prices? How would that work? I agree that there is no guarantee that building housing lowers prices, other causes (like increases in demand) may cause prices to go up (and the increased supply would lower the upward pressure). But I have a hard time to understand how increased supply would not have a downward effect on prices.

pastacacioepepe 4y ago
> But I have a hard time to understand how increased supply would not have a downward effect on prices. We can build housing much more efficiently and cheaply than we could 60 years ago, yet it's never been harder to buy a house. The law of supply and demand only works as expected when used in an extremely simplified model. If you account for all the other real factors (corporate greed, governmental intervention, NIMBYsm) that are skimmed over by economists, it becomes clear that the law of supply and demand should never be used alone to forecast future economic conditions.
- joking 4y ago
  I don't think that you can build much cheaper than before, is like the cars, they have more or less the same price but have improved in many ways (efficiency for example). Anyway, the building cost is many times not the most important thing in the price of a house.
  - pastacacioepepe 4y ago
    > they have more or less the same price but have improved in many ways (efficiency for example). If that was true, buying a house today would be as easy as it was in the 60s. In fact it isn't.
- erik_seaberg 4y ago
  Supply and demand still works, but only when we account for the artificially limited supply of buildable land and permits.
hacktehplanet 4y ago
> But I have a hard time to understand how increased supply would not have a downward effect on prices. It does, if that is the only thing that happens. If land owners or existing home owners willingness to sell, prospective renters or buyers willingness to buy, or any number of different things also change then those effects can overshadow an increase in supply. As they frequently do. Starbucks keeps opening new locations but that doesn't say much to the effect that the price of a cup of coffee will decrease.

pastacacioepepe 4y ago

> But I have a hard time to understand how increased supply would not have a downward effect on prices. We can build housing much more efficiently and cheaply than we could 60 years ago, yet it's never been harder to buy a house. The law of supply and demand only works as expected when used in an extremely simplified model. If you account for all the other real factors (corporate greed, governmental intervention, NIMBYsm) that are skimmed over by economists, it becomes clear that the law of supply and demand should never be used alone to forecast future economic conditions.

joking 4y ago
I don't think that you can build much cheaper than before, is like the cars, they have more or less the same price but have improved in many ways (efficiency for example). Anyway, the building cost is many times not the most important thing in the price of a house.
- pastacacioepepe 4y ago
  > they have more or less the same price but have improved in many ways (efficiency for example). If that was true, buying a house today would be as easy as it was in the 60s. In fact it isn't.
erik_seaberg 4y ago
Supply and demand still works, but only when we account for the artificially limited supply of buildable land and permits.

hacktehplanet 4y ago

> But I have a hard time to understand how increased supply would not have a downward effect on prices. It does, if that is the only thing that happens. If land owners or existing home owners willingness to sell, prospective renters or buyers willingness to buy, or any number of different things also change then those effects can overshadow an increase in supply. As they frequently do. Starbucks keeps opening new locations but that doesn't say much to the effect that the price of a cup of coffee will decrease.