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> Additionally, apple (Steve Jobs?) cared about graphics and color more than competitors? Did they really care about color? The original Mac didn't have color

> Additionally, apple (Steve Jobs?) cared about graphics and color more than competitors? Did they really care about color? The original Mac didn't have color (it didn't get color until about System 7?) I think they chose higher-resolution over color. It's the same with the NeXT I believe, higher-resolution is more important than color.

anikom15 4y ago
The black and white Mac monitors and software were carefully tuned to match the output of black and white offset printers, so yeah, they really cared about color before they even had color.
kalleboo 4y ago
It took a while for Apple to add color support, but when they did they were early out with proper color management in the whole chain from scanner to display to printer (ColorSync). IIRC when Adobe needed this on Windows for PhotoShop they had to re-implement it themselves (rather than relying on Windows) According to this MacOS got OS-level color management in 1993, and Windows wouldn't get it for another 4 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_management#Operating_system_level https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_management#Operating_sys...
- scarface74 4y ago
  A while? The first Mac came out in 1984. The Mac II came out in 1987.
- kitsunesoba 4y ago
  And funny enough to this day color management on Windows is a terrible mess. Kind of incredible, feels like low hanging fruit for wooing creative users, but I guess that’s what happens when you’re dominant and can maintain that dominance through sheer inertia.
prewett 4y ago
Given that color monitors were 16 colors at the time of the first Mac, color calibration wasn't going to be of much help. Most people were using green and black monitors, anyway, except for the labs with the amber VT320. The memory requirements for color were just too large to be affordable. According to Wikipedia, the Macintosh II [1] came out in 1987, System 4.0, with 256 colors--for the equivalent of $17,000. I doubt color calibration is much use with 256 colors (although apparently the Mac II support 16.7 million colors but you could only use 256 of them), but I can't find anything on when color calibration was supported. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_II

anikom15 4y ago

The black and white Mac monitors and software were carefully tuned to match the output of black and white offset printers, so yeah, they really cared about color before they even had color.

kalleboo 4y ago

It took a while for Apple to add color support, but when they did they were early out with proper color management in the whole chain from scanner to display to printer (ColorSync). IIRC when Adobe needed this on Windows for PhotoShop they had to re-implement it themselves (rather than relying on Windows) According to this MacOS got OS-level color management in 1993, and Windows wouldn't get it for another 4 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_management#Operating_system_level https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_management#Operating_sys...

scarface74 4y ago
A while? The first Mac came out in 1984. The Mac II came out in 1987.
kitsunesoba 4y ago
And funny enough to this day color management on Windows is a terrible mess. Kind of incredible, feels like low hanging fruit for wooing creative users, but I guess that’s what happens when you’re dominant and can maintain that dominance through sheer inertia.

prewett 4y ago

Given that color monitors were 16 colors at the time of the first Mac, color calibration wasn't going to be of much help. Most people were using green and black monitors, anyway, except for the labs with the amber VT320. The memory requirements for color were just too large to be affordable. According to Wikipedia, the Macintosh II [1] came out in 1987, System 4.0, with 256 colors--for the equivalent of $17,000. I doubt color calibration is much use with 256 colors (although apparently the Mac II support 16.7 million colors but you could only use 256 of them), but I can't find anything on when color calibration was supported. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_II