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By that logic, all drivers are early adopters every time a new driver gets their license and enters the "driving pool".

d23 4y ago
We should require a test of one's ability to drive based on some basic standards before issuing a license. We should come up with a series of rules for what happens if someone does not adhere to these standards, as well as a mechanism of enforcement if they violate those rules.
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ska 4y ago
Isn't that why lots of of jurisdictions have constraints on the learning driver (e.g. graduated licensing of some sort) and/or visibility requirements (e.g. car has to have a "learner" sticker of some sort) so that other drivers know?
- maximus-decimus 4y ago
  I literally never heard of such stickers.
  - paulryanrogers 4y ago
    We had them in the Midwest US. And the learner vehicles have an extra break pedal for the instructor. Which is good because a student in my group nearly killed us trying to merge into a semi.
sifar 4y ago
They probably are to some extent, and you know where the liability would lie if they are responsible should something bad happen. What about this case ? There is no sense of responsibility or realization of the danger they are introducing at scale . Even when they actually admit that they have failed at it [0]. I am not sure if they are aware of the doublespeak in this admission. [0] Failure to realize a long-term aspirational goal is not fraud.
witheld 4y ago
I think this logic is still square- Normally, each person puts one new driver on the road per-lifetime. When you beta test a baby driving robot, you’re now at two new drivers per life! And the Tesla doesn’t seem to be learning faster than a human!
philjohn 4y ago
Hence why in the UK they're strongly advised to have a P plate so other drivers are aware they are a new driver. I suppose everyone should just assume a Tesla is about to do something silly and drive defensively ...

d23 4y ago

We should require a test of one's ability to drive based on some basic standards before issuing a license. We should come up with a series of rules for what happens if someone does not adhere to these standards, as well as a mechanism of enforcement if they violate those rules.

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ska 4y ago

Isn't that why lots of of jurisdictions have constraints on the learning driver (e.g. graduated licensing of some sort) and/or visibility requirements (e.g. car has to have a "learner" sticker of some sort) so that other drivers know?

maximus-decimus 4y ago
I literally never heard of such stickers.
- paulryanrogers 4y ago
  We had them in the Midwest US. And the learner vehicles have an extra break pedal for the instructor. Which is good because a student in my group nearly killed us trying to merge into a semi.

sifar 4y ago

They probably are to some extent, and you know where the liability would lie if they are responsible should something bad happen. What about this case ? There is no sense of responsibility or realization of the danger they are introducing at scale . Even when they actually admit that they have failed at it [0]. I am not sure if they are aware of the doublespeak in this admission. [0] Failure to realize a long-term aspirational goal is not fraud.

witheld 4y ago

I think this logic is still square- Normally, each person puts one new driver on the road per-lifetime. When you beta test a baby driving robot, you’re now at two new drivers per life! And the Tesla doesn’t seem to be learning faster than a human!

philjohn 4y ago

Hence why in the UK they're strongly advised to have a P plate so other drivers are aware they are a new driver. I suppose everyone should just assume a Tesla is about to do something silly and drive defensively ...