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And a question for anyone involved: how does the .org relate to the .inc? Is the plan for Flickr to continue as a commercial enterprise?

kome 4y ago
read the post :) flickr is the company and the product, flickr foundation is about preserving flickr "Creative Commons"[1] images forever. [1] https://creativecommons.org/ https://creativecommons.org/
- Nrbelex 4y ago
  Thanks, but there's clearly more to it than that. They reference the full Flickr corpus in a number of places on the foundation's site and blog. e.g.: >Flickr has grown into one of the biggest photo collections on Earth. It contains tens of billions of images from people all over the world, and keeps growing every day. That’s why we’ve created the Flickr Foundation—an independent, community-focused organization. We’re committed to stewarding this cultural treasure for future generations, and fostering a visual commons we can all enjoy. [1] And >Today, the Flickr holds “tens of billions of images” documenting our planet from the first days of photography to just a moment ago. What if—should the ship go down—we had an archival copy of your Flickr presence ready? Simply admitting this might happen and preparing for it is a form of preservation. We call it a data lifeboat. You have probably been affected by web services that go dark or disappear, often with little or no warning. We think that’s not good enough, especially for an archive as precious as Flickr (and your photos), so we want to design a better way. It’s all at risk—though not in imminent danger—and that’s why the foundation has been set up. SmugMug has acknowledged the risk and set us the task of imagining and determining how to make sure this huge piece of human history doesn’t sink. We will work initially with the smaller and openly-licensed subset of imagery held within the Flickr Commons. Using this collection as our baseline, we will explore the edges of what’s required to create a data lifeboat that’s transportable, buoyant, and robust.[2] [1] https://www.flickr.org/ https://www.flickr.org/ [2] https://www.flickr.org/programs/content-mobility/data-lifeboat/ https://www.flickr.org/programs/content-mobility/data-lifebo...
- joecool1029 4y ago
  > read the post :) https://archive.vn/Uw6p3 https://archive.vn/Uw6p3 so many can do so. In the spirit of joining in on breaking HN guidelines, the page is broken with ublock origin blocking some shitty cookie popup. I could only read it in firefox reader mode, else it just dims out and locks the scroll with 'Hello World'.
  - kome 4y ago
    with firefox it works for me. and i use ublock origin too, perhaps a more lenient version.
    - joecool1029 4y ago
      AdGuard Annoyances list hits the match for it.
- LastTrain 4y ago
  But that doesn't really clear anything up. I see that there is a 501c that has been created, but it seems contrived to add value to flickr.com by offering some assurances that your photo collection doesn't slide into the abyss while offloading the storage costs. None of it seems very charitable to me.
george08 4y ago
Hi Nrbelex. It is definitely the plan for the .com to continue as a commercial enterprise. The .org is a new organization, a US 501(c)(3) nonprofit corporation. There's minority company representation on our Board, and we have all the official governance things like by-laws set up. The .com has funded the establishment of the .org to date, for which we are profoundly grateful, and we all expect and hope to diversify the .org revenue from now on. Both parties are aware of, and working to ensure, that the .org can also be independent of the .com if and when it needs to be. We would like to avoid the risk of a new CEO coming in and shutting it all down, as we are witnessing now in other arenas!

kome 4y ago

read the post :) flickr is the company and the product, flickr foundation is about preserving flickr "Creative Commons"[1] images forever. [1] https://creativecommons.org/ https://creativecommons.org/

Nrbelex 4y ago
Thanks, but there's clearly more to it than that. They reference the full Flickr corpus in a number of places on the foundation's site and blog. e.g.: >Flickr has grown into one of the biggest photo collections on Earth. It contains tens of billions of images from people all over the world, and keeps growing every day. That’s why we’ve created the Flickr Foundation—an independent, community-focused organization. We’re committed to stewarding this cultural treasure for future generations, and fostering a visual commons we can all enjoy. [1] And >Today, the Flickr holds “tens of billions of images” documenting our planet from the first days of photography to just a moment ago. What if—should the ship go down—we had an archival copy of your Flickr presence ready? Simply admitting this might happen and preparing for it is a form of preservation. We call it a data lifeboat. You have probably been affected by web services that go dark or disappear, often with little or no warning. We think that’s not good enough, especially for an archive as precious as Flickr (and your photos), so we want to design a better way. It’s all at risk—though not in imminent danger—and that’s why the foundation has been set up. SmugMug has acknowledged the risk and set us the task of imagining and determining how to make sure this huge piece of human history doesn’t sink. We will work initially with the smaller and openly-licensed subset of imagery held within the Flickr Commons. Using this collection as our baseline, we will explore the edges of what’s required to create a data lifeboat that’s transportable, buoyant, and robust.[2] [1] https://www.flickr.org/ https://www.flickr.org/ [2] https://www.flickr.org/programs/content-mobility/data-lifeboat/ https://www.flickr.org/programs/content-mobility/data-lifebo...
joecool1029 4y ago
> read the post :) https://archive.vn/Uw6p3 https://archive.vn/Uw6p3 so many can do so. In the spirit of joining in on breaking HN guidelines, the page is broken with ublock origin blocking some shitty cookie popup. I could only read it in firefox reader mode, else it just dims out and locks the scroll with 'Hello World'.
- kome 4y ago
  with firefox it works for me. and i use ublock origin too, perhaps a more lenient version.
  - joecool1029 4y ago
    AdGuard Annoyances list hits the match for it.
LastTrain 4y ago
But that doesn't really clear anything up. I see that there is a 501c that has been created, but it seems contrived to add value to flickr.com by offering some assurances that your photo collection doesn't slide into the abyss while offloading the storage costs. None of it seems very charitable to me.

george08 4y ago

Hi Nrbelex. It is definitely the plan for the .com to continue as a commercial enterprise. The .org is a new organization, a US 501(c)(3) nonprofit corporation. There's minority company representation on our Board, and we have all the official governance things like by-laws set up. The .com has funded the establishment of the .org to date, for which we are profoundly grateful, and we all expect and hope to diversify the .org revenue from now on. Both parties are aware of, and working to ensure, that the .org can also be independent of the .com if and when it needs to be. We would like to avoid the risk of a new CEO coming in and shutting it all down, as we are witnessing now in other arenas!