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> running the community edition of Jetbrains’ IntelliJ IDEA ... > As much as it hurts me to say this, as a fan of JetBrains and its tools, IntelliJ just seems

by RunSet 4y ago

> running the community edition of Jetbrains’ IntelliJ IDEA ... > As much as it hurts me to say this, as a fan of JetBrains and its tools, IntelliJ just seems to have become too heavy to run properly on a laptop that’s not at the very higher end of laptops in the early 2020’s. IntelliJ does what I want, but only barely. The autocompletion gets it wrong as much as it gets it right and it is a performance hog. I can deal with that. The problem for me was JetBrains' privacy policy[0]. It is loosely-worded enough to forbid them practically nothing, and I find that especially appalling in a so-called "community edition". So I began searching for alternatives. Emacs may serve for OP but I always forget how to exit it so I wanted something with a clickable "close" button in the top right. I am getting a good initial impression from Codelite[1]. I'm sure Codelite doesn't do everything IntelliJ's IDEs do, but it has the functionality I use and it is a breath of fresh air after waiting for IDEA and the like to catch their breath during text editing. [0] https://www.jetbrains.com/legal/docs/privacy/third-parties/ https://www.jetbrains.com/legal/docs/privacy/third-parties/ [1] https://codelite.org/ https://codelite.org/

okeuro49 4y ago
> The problem for me was JetBrains' privacy policy[0]. It is loosely-worded enough to forbid them practically nothing, and I find that especially appalling in a so-called "community edition". What, specifically? Because I can see they are bound by the GDPR and it seems clear to me: > If you install on-premises products such as IDEs or .NET & Visual Studio Tools, these products are located on your hardware. JetBrains does not provide hosting for these products and does not have access to any of your data processed with these tools, unless you actively decide to share this data with JetBrains.
vindarel 4y ago
> I wanted something with a clickable "close" button in the top right. c'on! Last time I checked (2 seconds ago), Emacs' GUI has a "close" button in the top right. And a "File" menu at the top left with a "Quit" entry, that teaches you the shortcut (C-x C-c). Emacs in the terminal (emacs -nw) doesn't have the top right button but still has the menu. We can't click it by default though. Use: F10, or M-x menu-bar-open, or M-x xterm-mouse-mode and click on it. https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Text_002dOnly-Mouse.html https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Te...
- tmtvl 4y ago
  Menu bars are the most amazing GUI paradigm ever invented and whenever I see an Emacs "distribution" which disables the menu bar it kind of feels to me like they would say things like "fire? We don't like that," or "the wheel? Not really a fan of that."
ParetoOptimal 4y ago
> Emacs may serve for OP but I always forget how to exit it so I wanted something with a clickable "close" button in the top right. That's the cool part, you don't! Jokes aside: - Every emacs install i've ever done had the familiar X at the top right to close it. How did you install? - Related to the joke, running emacs as a server is quite nice

by RunSet 4y ago

okeuro49 4y ago

> The problem for me was JetBrains' privacy policy[0]. It is loosely-worded enough to forbid them practically nothing, and I find that especially appalling in a so-called "community edition". What, specifically? Because I can see they are bound by the GDPR and it seems clear to me: > If you install on-premises products such as IDEs or .NET & Visual Studio Tools, these products are located on your hardware. JetBrains does not provide hosting for these products and does not have access to any of your data processed with these tools, unless you actively decide to share this data with JetBrains.

vindarel 4y ago

> I wanted something with a clickable "close" button in the top right. c'on! Last time I checked (2 seconds ago), Emacs' GUI has a "close" button in the top right. And a "File" menu at the top left with a "Quit" entry, that teaches you the shortcut (C-x C-c). Emacs in the terminal (emacs -nw) doesn't have the top right button but still has the menu. We can't click it by default though. Use: F10, or M-x menu-bar-open, or M-x xterm-mouse-mode and click on it. https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Text_002dOnly-Mouse.html https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Te...

tmtvl 4y ago
Menu bars are the most amazing GUI paradigm ever invented and whenever I see an Emacs "distribution" which disables the menu bar it kind of feels to me like they would say things like "fire? We don't like that," or "the wheel? Not really a fan of that."

ParetoOptimal 4y ago

> Emacs may serve for OP but I always forget how to exit it so I wanted something with a clickable "close" button in the top right. That's the cool part, you don't! Jokes aside: - Every emacs install i've ever done had the familiar X at the top right to close it. How did you install? - Related to the joke, running emacs as a server is quite nice