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> "All the problems associated with" what? Economic challenges of quickly building grid-scale battery storage , battery production for the entire globe, NIMBY
by voqv 4y ago
> "All the problems associated with" what?
Economic challenges of quickly building grid-scale battery storage , battery production for the entire globe, NIMBY's etc.
> Modern batteries don't burst into flame
they literally do
> the overwhelming bulk of storage is not batteries
Well overwhelming bulk is a high bar and storage is geography dependent. Germany f.e. can't build as much pumped storage as Australia and Australia built a large amount of battery storage vs PSH.
- moloch-hai 4y agoGermany has an overabundance of hills. Most places do. But pumped storage is just one of many options Modern batteries do not burn. Teslas do.
- MaxBarraclough 4y agoIt's a problem with lithium batteries in general, not just Tesla. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/recycling-firm-fined-after-tossed-batteries-cause-garbage-truck-fires/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/12/recycling-firm-fined...
- moloch-hai 4y agoLithium-ion batteries burn. But the topic was "modern batteries", which at the instant moment means LiFeP batteries, not "previous-generation batteries". Lithium is anyway not favored for use in utility-scale storage, where its light weight offers no compelling value. Up-and-coming chemistries include iron-air (no explosions), calcium-antimony (no explosions), and bromine-zinc (no explosions). Hundreds of other chemistries are available.
- voqv 4y ago> an overabundance of hills. That's not sufficient for pumped storage at scale, but Germany is mostly focusing on hydrogen for now.
- Brometheus 4y agoGermany can has and will very well be building hydrogen and compressed air storage.
- voqv 4y agoWell they certainly say they will, not sure about the rest.