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Every time I see articles talking about this subject, it's always completely focused on Twitch streamers that stream for a living. I would be more interested in

by mscdex 4y ago

Every time I see articles talking about this subject, it's always completely focused on Twitch streamers that stream for a living. I would be more interested in hearing the contrast with streamers who stream for fun/not for a living. Which problems are the same between the two groups and which are unique?

bakugo 4y ago
> Every time I see articles talking about this subject, it's always completely focused on Twitch streamers that stream for a living. Because, for the most part, those are the only people affected by these problems. If you don't stream with the intent to maximize your viewer counts and profits at all costs - stream when you feel like it, play what you want, don't chase trends, don't encourage parasocial relationships - you're basically immune to most of these issues.
- emsixteen 4y ago
  But these people aren't excluded from numbers in these articles. 95% of people stream to 0 viewers, but do they even care?
  - cableshaft 4y ago
    I'm kind of one of those streamers (went into it more in my other comment). While I would love to have a decent number of people following me (assuming I get back into the habit of doing it regularly), if no one does, it's really no big deal, I have a well-paying full-time job anyway, I don't need to earn a single cent from it.
- mscdex 4y ago
  I recognize that, but surely there could be overlap in some areas or problems unique to streamers who don't stream for a living. For example, I could see streamers who stream for a potential social benefit may feel the need to chase trends, play the more popular games, and other similar things in order to increase/maintain viewership for more socializing opportunities. However they may also have a unique set of problems that streamers who do it for money do not have.
  - bakugo 4y ago
    > streamers who stream for a potential social benefit may feel the need to chase trends, play the more popular games, and other similar things in order to increase/maintain viewership for more socializing opportunities I've never heard of any streamers like this, but if any do exist, they are effectively no different than people who stream for profit because the intermediate goal of maximizing viewership is the same.
    - lmm 4y ago
      Maybe. Or maybe there are interesting differences. It merits being looked into rather than dismissed immediately.
fulltimeloser 4y ago
Small streams are great when you want to interact with chat and the streamer. Once a stream grows bigger than a couple hundred viewers, interaction suffers and the stream becomes something else. Bigger streamers are more like watching regular TV where you just passively watch.
- pxoe 4y ago
  this is the difference in streamer dynamics that doesn't get enough coverage

by mscdex 4y ago

bakugo 4y ago

> Every time I see articles talking about this subject, it's always completely focused on Twitch streamers that stream for a living. Because, for the most part, those are the only people affected by these problems. If you don't stream with the intent to maximize your viewer counts and profits at all costs - stream when you feel like it, play what you want, don't chase trends, don't encourage parasocial relationships - you're basically immune to most of these issues.

emsixteen 4y ago
But these people aren't excluded from numbers in these articles. 95% of people stream to 0 viewers, but do they even care?
- cableshaft 4y ago
  I'm kind of one of those streamers (went into it more in my other comment). While I would love to have a decent number of people following me (assuming I get back into the habit of doing it regularly), if no one does, it's really no big deal, I have a well-paying full-time job anyway, I don't need to earn a single cent from it.
mscdex 4y ago
I recognize that, but surely there could be overlap in some areas or problems unique to streamers who don't stream for a living. For example, I could see streamers who stream for a potential social benefit may feel the need to chase trends, play the more popular games, and other similar things in order to increase/maintain viewership for more socializing opportunities. However they may also have a unique set of problems that streamers who do it for money do not have.
- bakugo 4y ago
  > streamers who stream for a potential social benefit may feel the need to chase trends, play the more popular games, and other similar things in order to increase/maintain viewership for more socializing opportunities I've never heard of any streamers like this, but if any do exist, they are effectively no different than people who stream for profit because the intermediate goal of maximizing viewership is the same.
  - lmm 4y ago
    Maybe. Or maybe there are interesting differences. It merits being looked into rather than dismissed immediately.

fulltimeloser 4y ago

Small streams are great when you want to interact with chat and the streamer. Once a stream grows bigger than a couple hundred viewers, interaction suffers and the stream becomes something else. Bigger streamers are more like watching regular TV where you just passively watch.

pxoe 4y ago
this is the difference in streamer dynamics that doesn't get enough coverage