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nah, I disagree. I've been trying to express complex ideas at the limits of my own grasp of language (including my native one) since always. And so long as I'v
by somrand0 4y ago
nah, I disagree.
I've been trying to express complex ideas at the limits of my own grasp of language (including my native one) since always. And so long as I've kept trying I have kept improving.
Surely diction is difficult, but you would have probably needed some diction tutoring or other tips to better use your mouth to sound like a native. It is possible but it's work.
so this is my counter point to your counterpoint.
- ezequiel-garzon 4y agoPlateauing is compatible with maintaining an upward trend.
- somrand0 4y agothat makes no sense to me. clearly something's missing here. could you elaborate? I understand a plateau to mean that there's no more upwards
- shem73 4y agoIt just means one is not improving monotonically. There may be plateaux but the general trend is upwards.
- ezequiel-garzon 4y agoConsider reaching a point where you only improve half of what you improved the day before, say first p for some increment p in English proficiency (hence p/2 the next day, p/4 the next…). By definition, you’ll keep improving for the rest of your life, but will never improve 2p counting from that fateful day, à la Zeno. That’s an example, not a model, which I don’t have. And certainly you have a point, devoting time and money may clearly help vigorously push the upward trend for longer, but I was just talking about my experience, those relatively effortless early moments. In any event, no matter how much you apply, I think it’s hard to argue that it’s quite rare to find foreigners that moved to a country as adults and sound truly native, and I don’t believe it’s due to half-hearted dedication.