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In 2021, Alex Wang of Scale (the author of the linked article) uncritically quoted the following from Eric Schmidt: "Eric states that the global growth of AI t

by ETHisso2017 4y ago

In 2021, Alex Wang of Scale (the author of the linked article) uncritically quoted the following from Eric Schmidt: "Eric states that the global growth of AI technology is a national security threat for the United States. In March, we believed we were ahead of China’s technological development in the AI sector, but they quickly showed us that we were wrong. By June, they’d demonstrated a model capable of producing human-like text that was comparable to OpenAI’s GPT-3 model in quality." https://scale.com/blog/Eric-Schmidt-Geopolitics-TransformX-Scale-AI https://scale.com/blog/Eric-Schmidt-Geopolitics-TransformX-S... As such, it's important to note that the author views the entire Chinese AI industry as a threat to the United States, and may believe that the growth of AI anywhere in the rest of the world is a threat to the United States.

remarkEon 4y ago
Is there a reason that I should think of Wang as uniquely qualified to comment on this space? He runs an AI startup, seems knowledgeable about AI in general, but what does he know about war?
- bloodyplonker22 4y ago
  Fair question, but I don't think one needs to be very skilled in the arts of war and military tactics to foresee that AI will be important in the future of war. I don't think it's worth throwing our dear Wang's blog out the window for this. The points he makes about AI's involvement in the future of war are very broad and high level. For example, he compares the amount of money that each country is spending on AI in the military and concludes that the US is lagging. It would be interesting if we had someone, like Palmer Luckey, who is actually involved in military AI speak in more detail about it.
  - remarkEon 4y ago
    Right, they are high level points, which is why I am having a hard time finding something specific to critique or even disagree with. For example, when I think of the question of “how will AI be used” the obvious answer, which Wang more or less addresses, is targeting systems. Basically, we’re just going to automate all of that and instead of a bunch of captains in the S2 shop cooking up target packets and deciding which one makes the most sense, the AI just does all of this for us. But what does this actually mean? Can we obsolete some/most/all of the S2 shop and replace it with a container of servers stacked with GPUs to do imagine processing? Take that manpower and add another infantry platoon? A drone operations platoon?
qualudeheart 4y ago
A great theoretician would pose the question this way. Can what’s playing the government make it to level two?

remarkEon 4y ago

Is there a reason that I should think of Wang as uniquely qualified to comment on this space? He runs an AI startup, seems knowledgeable about AI in general, but what does he know about war?

bloodyplonker22 4y ago
Fair question, but I don't think one needs to be very skilled in the arts of war and military tactics to foresee that AI will be important in the future of war. I don't think it's worth throwing our dear Wang's blog out the window for this. The points he makes about AI's involvement in the future of war are very broad and high level. For example, he compares the amount of money that each country is spending on AI in the military and concludes that the US is lagging. It would be interesting if we had someone, like Palmer Luckey, who is actually involved in military AI speak in more detail about it.
- remarkEon 4y ago
  Right, they are high level points, which is why I am having a hard time finding something specific to critique or even disagree with. For example, when I think of the question of “how will AI be used” the obvious answer, which Wang more or less addresses, is targeting systems. Basically, we’re just going to automate all of that and instead of a bunch of captains in the S2 shop cooking up target packets and deciding which one makes the most sense, the AI just does all of this for us. But what does this actually mean? Can we obsolete some/most/all of the S2 shop and replace it with a container of servers stacked with GPUs to do imagine processing? Take that manpower and add another infantry platoon? A drone operations platoon?

qualudeheart 4y ago

A great theoretician would pose the question this way. Can what’s playing the government make it to level two?