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I wonder if all these negative impacts of COVID-19 could also have been associated to seasonal flus in the past, had they been under the same level of scrutiny.

mullen 4y ago
COVID-19 is not the Flu. Also, the Flu has been around for at least 1500 years, so humanity would have observed "Flu Brain" or "Long Flu" a long time ago. To say that the Flu has not been under the same level of scrutiny as COVID-19 is ignoring 1500 years of human history.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  We've always had marginal/debatable illness. The existence of Chronic Lime Disease is debated, similar to Fibromyalgia, or perhaps Chronic Fatigue. Havana Syndrome is a more recent example. It's possible that these are actualy manifestations of psychological conditions like depression/anxiety, but people have a hard time accepting that. Doctors debate this, and I'm not a doctor. Who knows, maybe these are lingering conditions brought on by flus or other viruses.
- 543g43g43 4y ago
  You never heard of post-viral chronic fatigue?
- mikem170 4y ago
  Long flu is a thing [0] [1]. People were talking about that for years after the 1918 flu. There's some evidence that a prior flu outbreak, the Russian Flu around 1890, may have been an earlier coronavirus pandemic [2], but nobody could differentiate them at the time. EDIT: The parent's question seems reasonable. Covid is not unique amongst viruses in the damage it causes. Besides long flu there's things like myocarditis [3] from the flu that may have been neglected in the past, also. [0] https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/long-flu/ https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/long-flu/ [1] https://time.com/5915616/long-flu-1918-pandemic/ https://time.com/5915616/long-flu-1918-pandemic/ [2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34254725/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34254725/ [3] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33437555/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33437555/

mullen 4y ago

COVID-19 is not the Flu. Also, the Flu has been around for at least 1500 years, so humanity would have observed "Flu Brain" or "Long Flu" a long time ago. To say that the Flu has not been under the same level of scrutiny as COVID-19 is ignoring 1500 years of human history.

hotpotamus 4y ago
We've always had marginal/debatable illness. The existence of Chronic Lime Disease is debated, similar to Fibromyalgia, or perhaps Chronic Fatigue. Havana Syndrome is a more recent example. It's possible that these are actualy manifestations of psychological conditions like depression/anxiety, but people have a hard time accepting that. Doctors debate this, and I'm not a doctor. Who knows, maybe these are lingering conditions brought on by flus or other viruses.
543g43g43 4y ago
You never heard of post-viral chronic fatigue?
mikem170 4y ago
Long flu is a thing [0] [1]. People were talking about that for years after the 1918 flu. There's some evidence that a prior flu outbreak, the Russian Flu around 1890, may have been an earlier coronavirus pandemic [2], but nobody could differentiate them at the time. EDIT: The parent's question seems reasonable. Covid is not unique amongst viruses in the damage it causes. Besides long flu there's things like myocarditis [3] from the flu that may have been neglected in the past, also. [0] https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/long-flu/ https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/long-flu/ [1] https://time.com/5915616/long-flu-1918-pandemic/ https://time.com/5915616/long-flu-1918-pandemic/ [2] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34254725/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34254725/ [3] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33437555/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33437555/