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President Biden on Nord Stream 2 Pipeline if Russia Invades Ukraine: "We will bring an end to it." When asked how he will do that. "We will, uh, I promise you

• kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
  Russia raised a stink when their bridge got blown up but nothing but crickets over the pipeline.
  • mhermher 4y ago
    Maybe you just weren't paying attention as much. They did talk extensively about it.
  • hglands 4y ago
    This is not true. They waited because they were not given access to the site, and after some time extensively accused the British. Also, the Western media selects what it reports from Russia.
  • raverbashing 4y ago
    Obviously. There was some mild deflection attempts, but they were risible at best. They don't want to advertise their capabilities in an official manner, even though they were the ones threatening all the internet cables around. Not sure if Sweden's investigation proved it was from outside or inside, but of course, if it's from inside then it really limits who could have done it. "I see zero reasons why Russia would attack its own infrastructure" only points at one's lack of imagination or intellectual honesty really.
    • foverzar 4y ago
      > "I see zero reasons why Russia would attack its own infrastructure" only points at one's lack of imagination or intellectual honesty really. Imagination can help one paint any kind of picture in their head indeed, but maybe lets keep it in check at least to the point of basic sanity and reason?
      • miguelazo 4y ago
        Seriously. The mental gymnastics in some of these comments are truly astounding. But after how many years of Russiagate, I can’t be surprised.
  • foverzar 4y ago
    Are you reading Russian news directly, or do you rely on someone to report them to you? It was a hot topic in Russian media outlets.
• welterde 4y ago
  NS2 was already dead in the water at that point and Russia had already turned off the tap on NS1. Also only one of the two NS2 pipes were destroyed, while both NS1 pipes were destroyed. I think that pretty much rules out the US as a culprit. And Russia has something to gain by blowing up NS1: Possibly getting out of some long-term contracts that would involve some hefty fines for non-delivery (without just voiding contracts outright which would look bad for potential new customers).
  • mhermher 4y ago
    It was the threat that it would be turned back on that is the reason that rules in US as a culprit. It was already not being used! Russia would blow it up to get out of some contract? Does that sound like a serious idea to you? Do any contracts even matter between Russia and Europe at this point.
    • MichaelCollins 4y ago
      > Do any contracts even matter between Russia and Europe at this point. Doubtful. I think the most rational reason Russia might have done it was to remove a bargaining chip from any Russian challengers to Putin. But this seems like a stretch; if Putin thought some gazprom executive was going to use the pipeline to negotiate a peace with Europe, he'd probably just order that executive and his family murdered. That seems to be the way he operates. Self-sabotage to preempt coups is not unheard of though. The organizational dysfunction and poorly trained state of several militaries around the world is probably attributable in part to self-sabotage, by politicians who fear military coups.
      • mhermher 4y ago
        Any serious opposition to Putin is actually more hawkish than he is. Not quite something that is covered often in our press. There is no neo Yeltsin lurking in the shadows.
        • DSingularity 4y ago
• alibarber 4y ago
  I think by that he meant something along the lines of: “You can’t use American banks or the dollar to pay for this gas, and if you use Euros we’ll not allow our banks to use it as a currency” or something. Far, far more powerful than trying to go and physically blow them up.
  • miguelazo 4y ago
    You’re referring to Biden’s comment? That’s a laughable interpretation. “We will end it.” And “We have the means.” Seems pretty clear.