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Nevera means "storm" or alternatively "squall" in Croatian, which is where the car got its name.

by sbacic 4y ago

zagrebian 4y ago
Not just any storm. It’s a storm on the Croatian coast that comes suddenly and doesn’t last long. When pronouncing the word, the emphasis is on the second syllable: neh-VEH-rah Source: My Dalmatian father
- runnerup 4y ago
  TIL Dalmatia is a region in Croatia and the origin of the dog breed “Dalmatian”
  - exhilaration 4y ago
    Thank you for the explanation, my mind initially went to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_...
- bitL 4y ago
  Isn't that "Bora"?
  - taubek 4y ago
    Bora is the wind that blows from coast towards the sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bora_(wind) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bora_(wind)
  - t0mislav 4y ago
    No. Bora is strong wind and can last for days.
    - narimiran 4y ago
      > Bora is strong wind Fun fact: Jugo (another frequent wind on Adriatic coast) is even stronger wind, but what makes bora/bura special are strong sudden gusts.
      - Melting_Harps 4y ago
        > Fun fact: Jugo (another frequent wind on Adriatic coast) is even stronger wind, but what makes bora/bura special are strong sudden gusts. I saw it jack-knife a semi truck on my way back from Dalamatia to Istria, all my Life I ave seen the aftermath of the Santa Ana winds in SoCal but I've never seen it happen in person, but I was stalking that truck for at least 15 mins keeping my distance as the the carriage swayed hard left an right as the Bura got stronger as we got higher in elevation. Eventually the hitch thing that attaches to the front part of the truck snapped and sent it flying into the air and then sliding down the road, it blocked the entire 3 lane road. I checked to make sure the guy was fine and then left when the police showed up. Ironically, I had a Bura beer [0] with my food at a cafe as I was waiting for the rain to stop. I got hme to Istria pretty late, and all my patio furniture was tossed up, The Bura is no joke, but it has a cleansing effect; everything felt lighter after that storm. 0: https://www.burabrew.hr/our-beer/ https://www.burabrew.hr/our-beer/
        narimiran 4y ago
        > semi truck on my way back from Dalamatia to Istria I can guess that was under Velebit, where bura is often very strong and at those times the road is closed for motorcycles, campers, double-deckers and vehicles with trailers. But people regularly ignore those restrictions because they are not aware of the danger.
        Melting_Harps 4y ago
        > But people regularly ignore those restrictions because they are not aware of the danger. Possibly, I couldn't tell you where exactly it was to be honest. I'm not stranger to driving in 100MPH winds (Santa Ana), and I even did my Motorcycle endorsement in 70mph winds (I dropped their bike coming to a stop due to a freak side gust) but my little under-powered Golf was being tossed around by the Bura so bad that I was just waiting for the thing to jack knife as there were no exits for like +30km. I took the toll road the rest of the way back to Istria as it wasn't worth it in the end.
  - barrenko 4y ago
    Bora can be a part of Nevera.
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - zagrebian 4y ago
    If Rimac makes a car with that name, it’s probably going to be Bura because that’s how we write it in Croatia.
    - narimiran 4y ago
      > If Rimac makes a car with that name There already exists Volkswagen Bora, which was a sedan version of Golf 4. (Basically, a renamed Jetta; just like Vento in the generation before)
- stefs 4y ago
  > and doesn’t last long oh well
- matek 4y ago
  >It’s a storm on the Croatian coast that comes suddenly and doesn’t last long That would be neverin. Nevera is a storm/thunderstorm in the Adriatic in general, not necessarily a short lasting one.
  - davidw 4y ago
    I wonder what the etymology is. Sounds superficially like "neve", Italian for snow, but it doesn't sound like it's an actual snowstorm.
    - matek 4y ago
      >I wonder what the etymology is. Yep, it's of Romance origin, etymological dictionaries list it as originating in Venetian nevèra, with an understandable semantic shift.
  - pxmpxm 4y ago
    Same thing? The root of the word seems to be disbelief ne + vjera
    - matek 4y ago
      >Same thing? I was commenting on the "short lasting" part (and the nuances between neverin vs nevera, first one being for "short lasting" storms/thunderstorms, the latter being more generic). >The root of the word seems to be disbelief ne + vjera The word is completely unrelated to disbelief, it's of Venetian origin (< nevèra, meaning snow blizzard).
- mywittyname 4y ago
  > Source: My Dalmatian father And confirmed by Miro Zrncevic when he and Nevera appeared on Jay Leno's Garage. He spent about a minute explaining the term in detail and you nailed it.
moonchrome 4y ago
It's a dialect word at that - which is probably why google translation doesn't check out
richrichardsson 4y ago
Google translate unhelpfully suggests it's "infidelity" (Nevjera, not even the same word!), so thank you for clearing that up. I'm always frustrated (and I'm not even a native Croatian speaker) that automotive journalists often pronounce the company name "Reemack".
- dsego 4y ago
  Nevera can also be a variant for nevjera in the ekavian* dialect, eg. serbian language would use it (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nevera#Serbo-Croatian https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nevera#Serbo-Croatian). Although the stress is different (/něʋera/ vs /něʋeːra/). (*) dialects on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialects_of_Serbo-Croatian#Division_by_jat_reflex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialects_of_Serbo-Croatian#Div... One of the provided examples has variations of the word "vjera" meaning faith in each dialect, ne-vjera is basically non-faith. > faith věra vera vira vjera
- Symbiote 4y ago
  Wiktionary is often the best dictionary for this kind of query: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nevera https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nevera
saiya-jin 4y ago
in another Slavic language, Slovakian, "nevera" means outright infidelity. In Czech its almost same word, "nevěra"

Nevera means "storm" or alternatively "squall" in Croatian, which is where the car got its name.

by sbacic 4y ago

Nevera means "storm" or alternatively "squall" in Croatian, which is where the car got its name.

Not just any storm. It’s a storm on the Croatian coast that comes suddenly and doesn’t last long. When pronouncing the word, the emphasis is on the second syllable: neh-VEH-rah Source: My Dalmatian father

runnerup 4y ago
TIL Dalmatia is a region in Croatia and the origin of the dog breed “Dalmatian”
- exhilaration 4y ago
  Thank you for the explanation, my mind initially went to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_...
bitL 4y ago
Isn't that "Bora"?
- taubek 4y ago
  Bora is the wind that blows from coast towards the sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bora_(wind) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bora_(wind)
- t0mislav 4y ago
  No. Bora is strong wind and can last for days.
  - narimiran 4y ago
    > Bora is strong wind Fun fact: Jugo (another frequent wind on Adriatic coast) is even stronger wind, but what makes bora/bura special are strong sudden gusts.
    - Melting_Harps 4y ago
      > Fun fact: Jugo (another frequent wind on Adriatic coast) is even stronger wind, but what makes bora/bura special are strong sudden gusts. I saw it jack-knife a semi truck on my way back from Dalamatia to Istria, all my Life I ave seen the aftermath of the Santa Ana winds in SoCal but I've never seen it happen in person, but I was stalking that truck for at least 15 mins keeping my distance as the the carriage swayed hard left an right as the Bura got stronger as we got higher in elevation. Eventually the hitch thing that attaches to the front part of the truck snapped and sent it flying into the air and then sliding down the road, it blocked the entire 3 lane road. I checked to make sure the guy was fine and then left when the police showed up. Ironically, I had a Bura beer [0] with my food at a cafe as I was waiting for the rain to stop. I got hme to Istria pretty late, and all my patio furniture was tossed up, The Bura is no joke, but it has a cleansing effect; everything felt lighter after that storm. 0: https://www.burabrew.hr/our-beer/ https://www.burabrew.hr/our-beer/
      - narimiran 4y ago
        > semi truck on my way back from Dalamatia to Istria I can guess that was under Velebit, where bura is often very strong and at those times the road is closed for motorcycles, campers, double-deckers and vehicles with trailers. But people regularly ignore those restrictions because they are not aware of the danger.
        Melting_Harps 4y ago
        > But people regularly ignore those restrictions because they are not aware of the danger. Possibly, I couldn't tell you where exactly it was to be honest. I'm not stranger to driving in 100MPH winds (Santa Ana), and I even did my Motorcycle endorsement in 70mph winds (I dropped their bike coming to a stop due to a freak side gust) but my little under-powered Golf was being tossed around by the Bura so bad that I was just waiting for the thing to jack knife as there were no exits for like +30km. I took the toll road the rest of the way back to Istria as it wasn't worth it in the end.
- barrenko 4y ago
  Bora can be a part of Nevera.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- zagrebian 4y ago
  If Rimac makes a car with that name, it’s probably going to be Bura because that’s how we write it in Croatia.
  - narimiran 4y ago
    > If Rimac makes a car with that name There already exists Volkswagen Bora, which was a sedan version of Golf 4. (Basically, a renamed Jetta; just like Vento in the generation before)
stefs 4y ago
> and doesn’t last long oh well
matek 4y ago
>It’s a storm on the Croatian coast that comes suddenly and doesn’t last long That would be neverin. Nevera is a storm/thunderstorm in the Adriatic in general, not necessarily a short lasting one.
- davidw 4y ago
  I wonder what the etymology is. Sounds superficially like "neve", Italian for snow, but it doesn't sound like it's an actual snowstorm.
  - matek 4y ago
    >I wonder what the etymology is. Yep, it's of Romance origin, etymological dictionaries list it as originating in Venetian nevèra, with an understandable semantic shift.
- pxmpxm 4y ago
  Same thing? The root of the word seems to be disbelief ne + vjera
  - matek 4y ago
    >Same thing? I was commenting on the "short lasting" part (and the nuances between neverin vs nevera, first one being for "short lasting" storms/thunderstorms, the latter being more generic). >The root of the word seems to be disbelief ne + vjera The word is completely unrelated to disbelief, it's of Venetian origin (< nevèra, meaning snow blizzard).
mywittyname 4y ago
> Source: My Dalmatian father And confirmed by Miro Zrncevic when he and Nevera appeared on Jay Leno's Garage. He spent about a minute explaining the term in detail and you nailed it.

moonchrome 4y ago

It's a dialect word at that - which is probably why google translation doesn't check out

richrichardsson 4y ago

Google translate unhelpfully suggests it's "infidelity" (Nevjera, not even the same word!), so thank you for clearing that up. I'm always frustrated (and I'm not even a native Croatian speaker) that automotive journalists often pronounce the company name "Reemack".

dsego 4y ago
Nevera can also be a variant for nevjera in the ekavian* dialect, eg. serbian language would use it (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nevera#Serbo-Croatian https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nevera#Serbo-Croatian). Although the stress is different (/něʋera/ vs /něʋeːra/). (*) dialects on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialects_of_Serbo-Croatian#Division_by_jat_reflex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialects_of_Serbo-Croatian#Div... One of the provided examples has variations of the word "vjera" meaning faith in each dialect, ne-vjera is basically non-faith. > faith věra vera vira vjera
Symbiote 4y ago
Wiktionary is often the best dictionary for this kind of query: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nevera https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nevera

saiya-jin 4y ago

in another Slavic language, Slovakian, "nevera" means outright infidelity. In Czech its almost same word, "nevěra"