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When I saw ads in the Windows Start menu, I switched to Ubuntu. Haven't looked back and life is good. Except that the command line command apt-get sometimes d

by maupin 4y ago

When I saw ads in the Windows Start menu, I switched to Ubuntu. Haven't looked back and life is good. Except that the command line command apt-get sometimes displays an ad for Ubuntu Pro...

fsflover 4y ago
Perhaps you could switch to something like PopOS without ads.
marginalia_nu 4y ago
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sp1rit 4y ago
Keep in mind that Cannonical Ubuntu used to display ads/"recommendations " for Amazon products in their launch center thingy.
- MerelyMortal 4y ago
  Yep, Cannonical backed down on that advertising/revenue stream. Has Google ever backed down on advertising? It remains to be seen if Apple does.
  - ghostpepper 4y ago
    Canonical has ads in the terminal MOTD now
    - deafpolygon 4y ago
      Well, Canoncial products aren't on my shortlist of possible OS alternative anymore. That's ridiculous.
      - teddyh 4y ago
        Ubuntu is just an OEM rebranding of Debian – why not just use Debian?
        deafpolygon 4y ago
        My impression is that Debian doesn't support the latest hardware nor have the latest software?
        teddyh 4y ago
        If Ubuntu had it, Debian has it too, at least in the “testing” (rolling release) distribution. And Debian recently decided to allow non-free firmware in their official installation images, so the latest hardware should also be supported.
        deafpolygon 4y ago
        Just tried it out today - works on my laptop. Fedora 37 (and I believe Ubuntu has 5.15) has Kernel 5.19, am I missing anything by staying on 5.10?
        teddyh 4y ago
        If you want a later kernel than the default one, just install the package. Debian just released packages of Linux 6.0.
TrueSlacker0 4y ago
Don't forget the fact that you had to see a command line, no general user should ever see a command line.
- mellavora 4y ago
  > no general user should ever see a command line. Gack! Why not? If the computer is supposed to be a "bicycle for the mind", then shouldn't it be designed to enhance our thinking, and also to force us to "think differently"? You have to learn how to ride a bike. It involves some scraped knees.
  - rchaud 4y ago
    Imagine a stationary bike that you have in your home. Do you want to place it smack dab in your living room? Or leave it in the garage, out of plain sight, and access it only when needed?
    - user_ 4y ago
      Definitely in the living room. Tools like the command line and exercise equipment help improve capability and personal agency. Hiding either away pushes the default toward passive consumption.
      - Karsteski 4y ago
        Even though I agree with you on a personal level, this kind of thinking does not lead to mainstream adoption. If there were a Linux distro that "just worked", we could have the best of both worlds. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be something that will happen in the foreseeable future. I'd love for a company like System76 to come out with such a solution, but it is certainly an expensive, difficult endeavour.
  - Johanx64 4y ago
    How does typing cryptic, badly named two-three letter commands (with no less idiotic and inconsistent flags) enhance your thinking? The default shell and utter lack of well designed autocomplete or hints is a like a bad trip back to tape machines, punch codes and weird idiosyncracies from a bygone PDP11 era. It's absolute piss and nobody should be dealing with it unless they want to for whatever reason.
1f60c 4y ago
I think Ubuntu Pro is free for personal use, but whether the terminal is the right place to put ads is a different question.
thesuitonym 4y ago
I've never seen such an ad... Maybe it's only an apt-get thing? Try using apt.
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pshirshov 4y ago
Build yourself a Nix. Or Gentoo.
bakugo 4y ago
> Except that the command line command apt-get sometimes displays an ad for Ubuntu Pro.. sudo truncate -s 0 /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20apt-esm-hook.conf

by maupin 4y ago

When I saw ads in the Windows Start menu, I switched to Ubuntu. Haven't looked back and life is good. Except that the command line command apt-get sometimes displays an ad for Ubuntu Pro...

fsflover 4y ago

Perhaps you could switch to something like PopOS without ads.

marginalia_nu 4y ago

You may be interested in learning we're currently having a special deal on Frustration Premium, only $5/month. Use code marginalia at checkout.

sp1rit 4y ago

Keep in mind that Cannonical Ubuntu used to display ads/"recommendations " for Amazon products in their launch center thingy.

MerelyMortal 4y ago
Yep, Cannonical backed down on that advertising/revenue stream. Has Google ever backed down on advertising? It remains to be seen if Apple does.
- ghostpepper 4y ago
  Canonical has ads in the terminal MOTD now
  - deafpolygon 4y ago
    Well, Canoncial products aren't on my shortlist of possible OS alternative anymore. That's ridiculous.
    - teddyh 4y ago
      Ubuntu is just an OEM rebranding of Debian – why not just use Debian?
      - deafpolygon 4y ago
        My impression is that Debian doesn't support the latest hardware nor have the latest software?
        teddyh 4y ago
        If Ubuntu had it, Debian has it too, at least in the “testing” (rolling release) distribution. And Debian recently decided to allow non-free firmware in their official installation images, so the latest hardware should also be supported.
        deafpolygon 4y ago
        Just tried it out today - works on my laptop. Fedora 37 (and I believe Ubuntu has 5.15) has Kernel 5.19, am I missing anything by staying on 5.10?
        teddyh 4y ago
        If you want a later kernel than the default one, just install the package. Debian just released packages of Linux 6.0.

TrueSlacker0 4y ago

Don't forget the fact that you had to see a command line, no general user should ever see a command line.

mellavora 4y ago
> no general user should ever see a command line. Gack! Why not? If the computer is supposed to be a "bicycle for the mind", then shouldn't it be designed to enhance our thinking, and also to force us to "think differently"? You have to learn how to ride a bike. It involves some scraped knees.
- rchaud 4y ago
  Imagine a stationary bike that you have in your home. Do you want to place it smack dab in your living room? Or leave it in the garage, out of plain sight, and access it only when needed?
  - user_ 4y ago
    Definitely in the living room. Tools like the command line and exercise equipment help improve capability and personal agency. Hiding either away pushes the default toward passive consumption.
    - Karsteski 4y ago
      Even though I agree with you on a personal level, this kind of thinking does not lead to mainstream adoption. If there were a Linux distro that "just worked", we could have the best of both worlds. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be something that will happen in the foreseeable future. I'd love for a company like System76 to come out with such a solution, but it is certainly an expensive, difficult endeavour.
- Johanx64 4y ago
  How does typing cryptic, badly named two-three letter commands (with no less idiotic and inconsistent flags) enhance your thinking? The default shell and utter lack of well designed autocomplete or hints is a like a bad trip back to tape machines, punch codes and weird idiosyncracies from a bygone PDP11 era. It's absolute piss and nobody should be dealing with it unless they want to for whatever reason.

1f60c 4y ago

I think Ubuntu Pro is free for personal use, but whether the terminal is the right place to put ads is a different question.

thesuitonym 4y ago

I've never seen such an ad... Maybe it's only an apt-get thing? Try using apt.

deleted 4y ago

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pshirshov 4y ago

Build yourself a Nix. Or Gentoo.

bakugo 4y ago

> Except that the command line command apt-get sometimes displays an ad for Ubuntu Pro.. sudo truncate -s 0 /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20apt-esm-hook.conf