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unlabelled satirical identity theft is identity theft

• maxbond 4y ago
  Identity theft is not a joke, Jim.
  • labrador 4y ago
    Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not an identity thief
  • romanovcode 4y ago
    Millions of families suffer every year!
  • pavlov 4y ago
    "You wouldn't steal a car You wouldn't steal a movie You wouldn't steal an identity Parody. It's a crime."
• jychang 4y ago
  Yes, the solution is to label everything. You should label your comment as known to the State of California to cause cancer, or birth defects or other reproductive harm.
  • FortiDude 4y ago
    If the whole point of your account is to make people laugh with the imaginary pretense that your posts are coming from another person/institution then yes, the potential readers should know it's fake. A comic strip artist that I follow constantly puts fake words into famous peoples' mouths in his newspaper sections, but even tough I know it's fake I can still partake in the momentary delusion and get a good laugh
    • alpaca128 4y ago
      > potential readers should know it's fake. If potential readers cannot differentiate between reality and parody they're either deep in a conspiracy rabbit hole, or reality has become too crazy. Both these cases would again be a valid reason for parody to point out this fact. Jokes work by surprising the audience. Pretending to be someone else before revealing the truth is just one method of doing this, and requiring to label it as parody is like explaining the punchline before the joke. The Onion recently wrote an actual legal document on exactly this and how required labelling of parody violates free speech.
  • krapp 4y ago
    If only Twitter had some means by which one could verify one's identity and add a signifier to the account.
    • hulitu 4y ago
      Everybody shall post real name and telephone number for identity verification. /s
• tchaffee 4y ago
  And hate speech can be harmful. But hate speech is free speech. Is unlabeled parody free speech?
  • FortiDude 4y ago
    Can you impersonate someone as a joke? No. Parody is not identity theft. When a comedian "impersonates" a politicians we all partake in a temporary delusion aided by the comic's ability to mimick the politician. Everyone knows it's fake but we laugh nonetheless. Making a hyper-realistic deep fake video of a politician saying absurd stuff is not free speech without appropriate labelling.
    • tchaffee 4y ago
      > Can you impersonate someone as a joke? No. Parody is not identity theft. Can you point to case law that makes this clear? Intent highly matters and I don't see anyone facing legal repercussions for impersonating someone for comic intent or even politically motivated intentions. Not to mention, Twitter already has a mechanism identifying verified accounts, doesn't it? > Making a hyper-realistic deep fake video of a politician saying absurd stuff is not free speech without appropriate labelling. Lying is mostly not against the law and is covered under free speech. In fact in 2012 the Supreme Court ruled that lying can be Constitutionally protected under free speech. [1] Whether or not such video would be ethically wrong is another matter. But I think you are wrong is in saying it is not free speech. https://www.npr.org/2012/02/22/147257716/is-a-lie-just-free-speech-or-is-it-a-crime https://www.npr.org/2012/02/22/147257716/is-a-lie-just-free-...
    • maxbond 4y ago
      You've characterized this as "impersonation" in order to exclude the possibility of parody, it's merely sophistry. This is a view of parody that falls apart when you look at actual parody. There have been many times I've been absentmindedly reading an article, been incredulous, and then realize it was from The Onion.
      • FortiDude 4y ago