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So someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't many Twitter employees start talking about how horrible Elon was and how they didn't want to work for him when the

So someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't many Twitter employees start talking about how horrible Elon was and how they didn't want to work for him when the discussions were ongoing? Seems like if large chunks of the employee base are talking smack on the possible new CEO, not even as a corporation but as an individual, they shouldn't be unduly surprised if the CEO decides to show them the door when he gets in since he can't be sure they won't be actively hostile. And I know this is happening in such a way that they aren't just letting go of people that talked smack on musk, but still I don't know what supposed adults were thinking when they were s*t talking their new potential CEO.

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causality0 4y ago
It's been clear for a while that Twitter only has the presence it has because it was the first out of the gate and not because they're actually good at what they do. Their talents seem to largely be the ability to amplify the most toxic aspects of both the left and the right at the same time.
kodah 4y ago
That is true, at least if you trust leaked discussions, however, this isn't an isolated example of Elon's leadership in action. All the points about the ideological captivity of Twitter employees are secondary to repeated behavior. So is, "Don't talk open shit about your future boss" a point? Yeah, but so is Elon treating this process like an inhumane animal. The latter trump's a bunch of plebians with loud opinions.
keithalewis 4y ago
- mjmsmith 4y ago
  Promise to pardon Jan 6 insurrectionists?
weeblewobble 4y ago
> So someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't many Twitter employees start talking about how horrible Elon was and how they didn't want to work for him I think it's worth introspecting on where you got this impression and what "many Twitter employees" means. It seems to me there are many powerful people who want you to have this impression but that doesn't mean it's true. Twitter had thousands of employees and I'd bet a strong majority of them are not ideologues in the way you imagine. Just people who work 9-5 and value job security.
- cjbgkagh 4y ago
  I presume people got that impression from highlighted Tweets from employees… which says something about the effect that Twitter has on discourse.
- treeman79 4y ago
  - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
    > Elon has gone from being the hero of the left to the villain for daring to allow free speech. I don't know if Elon Musk was ever "the hero of the left", or any tech executive for that matter? He definitely has his fans (among techies mostly), but you would be hard pressed for any hardcore leftist to see a CEO as their hero. The whole pedo thai diver incident turn even many left-leaning (and unaligned, and right-leaning) techies from pro to neutral or even negative.
  - tempestn 4y ago
    I can't speak for "the left", but he went from someone I respected for his contributions to... not that, not because of his views on free speech, but because he started publicly acting like an asshole on a regular basis.
  - pcwalton 4y ago
    Nobody in the comment chain was talking about left-wing vs. right-wing ideology. I get that Musk is a partisan figure now, but this thread isn't going to get any better by turning it into yet another ideological battle.
saagarjha 4y ago
If large chunks of the employee base are talking smack about the possible new CEO, perhaps there are reasons they are doing so? "Elon comes in and throws the company into chaos" seems to be fairly accurate, FWIW.
SanjayMehta 4y ago
There were a handful of very vocal people who created that ruckus and the media amplified it.
wa_throwaway 4y ago
> So someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't many Twitter employees start talking about how horrible Elon What a sensitive man-baby. For all his flaws, Mark Zuckerberg is no glass cannon. He is not prone to rage because his employees dared question him.

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causality0 4y ago

It's been clear for a while that Twitter only has the presence it has because it was the first out of the gate and not because they're actually good at what they do. Their talents seem to largely be the ability to amplify the most toxic aspects of both the left and the right at the same time.

kodah 4y ago

That is true, at least if you trust leaked discussions, however, this isn't an isolated example of Elon's leadership in action. All the points about the ideological captivity of Twitter employees are secondary to repeated behavior. So is, "Don't talk open shit about your future boss" a point? Yeah, but so is Elon treating this process like an inhumane animal. The latter trump's a bunch of plebians with loud opinions.

keithalewis 4y ago

mjmsmith 4y ago
Promise to pardon Jan 6 insurrectionists?

weeblewobble 4y ago

> So someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't many Twitter employees start talking about how horrible Elon was and how they didn't want to work for him I think it's worth introspecting on where you got this impression and what "many Twitter employees" means. It seems to me there are many powerful people who want you to have this impression but that doesn't mean it's true. Twitter had thousands of employees and I'd bet a strong majority of them are not ideologues in the way you imagine. Just people who work 9-5 and value job security.

cjbgkagh 4y ago
I presume people got that impression from highlighted Tweets from employees… which says something about the effect that Twitter has on discourse.
treeman79 4y ago
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  > Elon has gone from being the hero of the left to the villain for daring to allow free speech. I don't know if Elon Musk was ever "the hero of the left", or any tech executive for that matter? He definitely has his fans (among techies mostly), but you would be hard pressed for any hardcore leftist to see a CEO as their hero. The whole pedo thai diver incident turn even many left-leaning (and unaligned, and right-leaning) techies from pro to neutral or even negative.
- tempestn 4y ago
  I can't speak for "the left", but he went from someone I respected for his contributions to... not that, not because of his views on free speech, but because he started publicly acting like an asshole on a regular basis.
- pcwalton 4y ago
  Nobody in the comment chain was talking about left-wing vs. right-wing ideology. I get that Musk is a partisan figure now, but this thread isn't going to get any better by turning it into yet another ideological battle.

saagarjha 4y ago

If large chunks of the employee base are talking smack about the possible new CEO, perhaps there are reasons they are doing so? "Elon comes in and throws the company into chaos" seems to be fairly accurate, FWIW.

SanjayMehta 4y ago

There were a handful of very vocal people who created that ruckus and the media amplified it.

wa_throwaway 4y ago

> So someone correct me if I'm wrong but didn't many Twitter employees start talking about how horrible Elon What a sensitive man-baby. For all his flaws, Mark Zuckerberg is no glass cannon. He is not prone to rage because his employees dared question him.