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> When did we become so comfortable with the government mandating presentation of papers and tracking of private transactions? After Timothy McVeigh blew up a
by hack_edu 4y ago
> When did we become so comfortable with the government mandating presentation of papers and tracking of private transactions?
After Timothy McVeigh blew up a building with a truck full of agricultural supplies.
- catiopatio 4y agoHow well did that prevent 9/11? The decrease in domestic terrorism is due to societal changes and better old-fashioned policing of home-grown extremist groups. We didn’t somehow make it impossible (or even difficult) to improvise large explosives.
- zeven7 4y agoIt prevented 7/15 pretty damn well
- khazhoux 4y ago7/15: Never Remember
- mattzito 4y agoWell, those folks had to spend a few years planning, take flying lessons, dry run everything a few times, and then pull off the most complicated and coordinated terrorist attack in US history. The actual bomb planning for the Oklahoma City bombing was less than a year and involved two people. So, seems like the bar was raised quite a bit.
- Teever 4y agoDo you think that the bar was raised a bit or that the 9/11 terrorists set their sights a little higher?
- beenBoutIT 4y agoYou're giving the 9/11 terrorists far too much credit. They were supported/financed by the Saudis[0] and America dropping the ball was the only reason they succeeded. It's not so much a big victory for the terrorists as a big black eye for America and our intelligence agencies. One of the 9/11 pilots was reported to Federal agencies multiple times[1] and the hijacking still took place. [0]https://theintercept.com/2021/09/11/september-11-saudi-arabia/ https://theintercept.com/2021/09/11/september-11-saudi-arabi... [1]https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91659&page=1 https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91659&page=1
- olliej 4y agoHow well did laws to stop isolated crazy people killing lots of people stop … um … a group of countries investing large amounts of money and years of time into planning and training for the largest single attack on a civilian target in history? I mean sure, you could also ask how laws against shoplifting fail to stop bank robberies, and it would be just as coherent.
- drewmol 4y agolargest single attack on a civilian target in history? Japan would like to have a word with you.
- whoooooo123 4y agoPerhaps "largest single attack on a civilian target by a non-state actor" would be more accurate.
- tadfisher 4y agoSurvivorship bias. You don't know how many plots were prevented by making it difficult to obtain explosive precursors.