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Respectfully, I have not found that to be true. No one side has a monopoly on the lunatics or the level headed. It's unfortunate ad hominems, logical fallacie

Respectfully, I have not found that to be true. No one side has a monopoly on the lunatics or the level headed. It's unfortunate ad hominems, logical fallacies, and the "mic drop one liner" get so much traction and amplification. When I find myself making snap judgments about an issue, I dive in to the opposition, doggedly seek out the underpinning ideas, from academic or level headed folks. It's helped strengthen my personal convictions on some matters and moderated my pre held notions.

cmh89 4y ago
>Respectfully, I have not found that to be true. No one side has a monopoly on the lunatics or the level headed. I really disagree. I think you have fringe folks on the left but outlandish ideas are mainstream amongst conservatives. For example, 70% of republicans believe Joe Biden did not legitimately win the 2020 election. https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/70-percent-republicans-falsely-believe-stolen-election-trump/ https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/70-percent-republ... You just aren't going to find such strong belief in anything that absurd on the left. >When I find myself making snap judgments about an issue, I dive in to the opposition, doggedly seek out the underpinning ideas, from academic or level headed folks. I agree! Obviously some subjects like anti-vaxxers or election deniers don't have level-headed or academic folks who can support them. That's really why you need intense moderation because quality content doesn't rise to the top. An 'anything goes' environment tends to promote the absolute worst ideas, as people like Gwyneth Paltrow and Joe Rogan have a far wider audience that actual scientists. If you allow them to lie about important issues, the lie is going to suffocate any academic or level-headed person who has something to say.
- Akronymus 4y ago
  > You just aren't going to find such strong belief in anything that absurd on the left. The 4 years of russian meddling? It genuinly seems to have been widespread to me. And with the biden one, AFAICT it is not directly about stealing it, but rather enacting stuff that resulted in an unfair benefit to democrats, that seemed unlawful. (Mail in voting by default, for example) So, no, I don't believe it's mostly one side. But rather that both sides have the loud, crazy, minority.
  - cmh89 4y ago
    >The 4 years of russian meddling? It genuinly seems to have been widespread to me. You mean the highly documented russian interference in our elections? Is that what you're talking about? >And with the biden one, AFAICT it is not directly about stealing it, but rather enacting stuff that resulted in an unfair benefit to democrats, that seemed unlawful. (Mail in voting by default, for example) I'm not going to delve too deep into the idiotic conspiracy theories behind the 'stop the steal', the reality is that there is zero evidence impropriety. The idea that making it easier to vote by mail is a benefit to one party speaks volumes about what conservatives believe. The fight against vote-by-mail has nothing to do with lawfullness. Conservatives focus on making it hard to vote/voter disenfranchisement because they know they are a minority party.

cmh89 4y ago

>Respectfully, I have not found that to be true. No one side has a monopoly on the lunatics or the level headed. I really disagree. I think you have fringe folks on the left but outlandish ideas are mainstream amongst conservatives. For example, 70% of republicans believe Joe Biden did not legitimately win the 2020 election. https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/70-percent-republicans-falsely-believe-stolen-election-trump/ https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/70-percent-republ... You just aren't going to find such strong belief in anything that absurd on the left. >When I find myself making snap judgments about an issue, I dive in to the opposition, doggedly seek out the underpinning ideas, from academic or level headed folks. I agree! Obviously some subjects like anti-vaxxers or election deniers don't have level-headed or academic folks who can support them. That's really why you need intense moderation because quality content doesn't rise to the top. An 'anything goes' environment tends to promote the absolute worst ideas, as people like Gwyneth Paltrow and Joe Rogan have a far wider audience that actual scientists. If you allow them to lie about important issues, the lie is going to suffocate any academic or level-headed person who has something to say.

Akronymus 4y ago
> You just aren't going to find such strong belief in anything that absurd on the left. The 4 years of russian meddling? It genuinly seems to have been widespread to me. And with the biden one, AFAICT it is not directly about stealing it, but rather enacting stuff that resulted in an unfair benefit to democrats, that seemed unlawful. (Mail in voting by default, for example) So, no, I don't believe it's mostly one side. But rather that both sides have the loud, crazy, minority.
- cmh89 4y ago
  >The 4 years of russian meddling? It genuinly seems to have been widespread to me. You mean the highly documented russian interference in our elections? Is that what you're talking about? >And with the biden one, AFAICT it is not directly about stealing it, but rather enacting stuff that resulted in an unfair benefit to democrats, that seemed unlawful. (Mail in voting by default, for example) I'm not going to delve too deep into the idiotic conspiracy theories behind the 'stop the steal', the reality is that there is zero evidence impropriety. The idea that making it easier to vote by mail is a benefit to one party speaks volumes about what conservatives believe. The fight against vote-by-mail has nothing to do with lawfullness. Conservatives focus on making it hard to vote/voter disenfranchisement because they know they are a minority party.