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I hope ads will die some day. To me they are just annoying and very rarely informative.

by bobiny 4y ago

davidw 4y ago
Where's the funding come from, then? That was not a cheap purchase.
- TheOtherHobbes 4y ago
  In unrelated news: https://twitter.com/ProfessorShaw/status/1586064942972575746 https://twitter.com/ProfessorShaw/status/1586064942972575746 Also, I assume the point is a presidential run within the next cycle or three.
  - zimpenfish 4y ago
    The tweet has been deleted - do you have the content?
  - lupire 4y ago
    Deleted tweet. Elon Musk is not eligible to be President.
    - bena 4y ago
      Which is probably why they deleted the tweet. They were probably getting ratio'ed to hell. So they decided to delete their shame rather than take their lumps.
      - marssaxman 4y ago
        What does "getting ratio'ed to hell" mean?
        remarkEon 4y ago
        Replies >>> likes + retweets Implying that people are dunking on you for being wrong instead of amplifying what you said.
  - ldh0011 4y ago
    That tweet doesn't seem to exist when I click the link. Unless I'm missing some context if you're saying Elon will run for president I don't think that can happen because he was born in South Africa.
    - SamBam 4y ago
      Most people have concluded that the "natural born" clause doesn't mean "born in," otherwise Ted Cruz would never have bothered to run. Of course, it hasn't been tested by the Supreme Court yet. His issue is that he wasn't born a US citizen, not that he was born in South Africa.
- wombatpm 4y ago
  How about charging anyone with more than X followers? Or pay to be verified? or pay for support? Supported bot accounts or corporate accounts? There are many options they could pursue. Twitter was not helped having Jack as a part-time CEO for all of those years.
  - jcranmer 4y ago
    > How about charging anyone with more than X followers? Excellent idea, let's deplatform people by creating lots of bot accounts to follow them so that they have to pay for it!
  - bobiny 4y ago
    Verified accounts means it’s somebody well known outside of Twitter. So it’s beneficial to Twitter to have them. I see today’s Twitter as a chat app where popular people promote their content to less popular. Maybe it would make sense to help populars sell stuff directly and get a cut.
- bobiny 4y ago
  I wasn't talking about Twitter specifically. Ads are a dominating revenue model: Youtube, Instagram, Facebook etc. I had an idea of people using crypto payments instead of likes. A platform would take a cut.
  - WJW 4y ago
    I'd expect like counts to fall precipitously if you had to pay for every single one.
    - usefulcat 4y ago
      OTOH a like would mean a lot more because it would mean someone literally put their money where their mouth is.
      - bobiny 4y ago
        Yes. I feel that "liking" is a consumerist approach to conversation. Buy/no buy, swipe left/right. It's more nuanced in real world. We don't always agree or disagree with people, sometimes we just listen and exchange words. So yeah, there would be less "likes", but they would be more substantial.
        freejazz 4y ago
        Or maybe they wouldn't because it's just twitter and why would anyone pay to "like" something? seems more like the crypto fantasy for a world where everything is a financial transaction. I don't think its a realistic assessment of how people actually value money and speech.
        bobiny 4y ago
        sure
    - LegitShady 4y ago
      you can see with youtube premium that the value of individual ad views is basically nothing, and getting users to pay a reasonable monthly fee ends up being much more profitable. nobody will do the 'pay per video' thing because its not as profitable as just getting a monthly sub.
- deleted 4y ago
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SamBam 4y ago
Clearly they generate revenue, though. What's your proposal for how Twitter makes money? Just double-down on the harvesting of personal information instead?
- bobiny 4y ago
  Personal info harvesting is at the core of most ad based businesses. Like Google of FB. I’d help people sell things. Like be a platform to sell books, nudes, news etc.

I hope ads will die some day. To me they are just annoying and very rarely informative.

by bobiny 4y ago

I hope ads will die some day. To me they are just annoying and very rarely informative.

davidw 4y ago

Where's the funding come from, then? That was not a cheap purchase.

TheOtherHobbes 4y ago
In unrelated news: https://twitter.com/ProfessorShaw/status/1586064942972575746 https://twitter.com/ProfessorShaw/status/1586064942972575746 Also, I assume the point is a presidential run within the next cycle or three.
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  The tweet has been deleted - do you have the content?
- lupire 4y ago
  Deleted tweet. Elon Musk is not eligible to be President.
  - bena 4y ago
    Which is probably why they deleted the tweet. They were probably getting ratio'ed to hell. So they decided to delete their shame rather than take their lumps.
    - marssaxman 4y ago
      What does "getting ratio'ed to hell" mean?
      - remarkEon 4y ago
        Replies >>> likes + retweets Implying that people are dunking on you for being wrong instead of amplifying what you said.
- ldh0011 4y ago
  That tweet doesn't seem to exist when I click the link. Unless I'm missing some context if you're saying Elon will run for president I don't think that can happen because he was born in South Africa.
  - SamBam 4y ago
    Most people have concluded that the "natural born" clause doesn't mean "born in," otherwise Ted Cruz would never have bothered to run. Of course, it hasn't been tested by the Supreme Court yet. His issue is that he wasn't born a US citizen, not that he was born in South Africa.
wombatpm 4y ago
How about charging anyone with more than X followers? Or pay to be verified? or pay for support? Supported bot accounts or corporate accounts? There are many options they could pursue. Twitter was not helped having Jack as a part-time CEO for all of those years.
- jcranmer 4y ago
  > How about charging anyone with more than X followers? Excellent idea, let's deplatform people by creating lots of bot accounts to follow them so that they have to pay for it!
- bobiny 4y ago
  Verified accounts means it’s somebody well known outside of Twitter. So it’s beneficial to Twitter to have them. I see today’s Twitter as a chat app where popular people promote their content to less popular. Maybe it would make sense to help populars sell stuff directly and get a cut.
bobiny 4y ago
I wasn't talking about Twitter specifically. Ads are a dominating revenue model: Youtube, Instagram, Facebook etc. I had an idea of people using crypto payments instead of likes. A platform would take a cut.
- WJW 4y ago
  I'd expect like counts to fall precipitously if you had to pay for every single one.
  - usefulcat 4y ago
    OTOH a like would mean a lot more because it would mean someone literally put their money where their mouth is.
    - bobiny 4y ago
      Yes. I feel that "liking" is a consumerist approach to conversation. Buy/no buy, swipe left/right. It's more nuanced in real world. We don't always agree or disagree with people, sometimes we just listen and exchange words. So yeah, there would be less "likes", but they would be more substantial.
      - freejazz 4y ago
        Or maybe they wouldn't because it's just twitter and why would anyone pay to "like" something? seems more like the crypto fantasy for a world where everything is a financial transaction. I don't think its a realistic assessment of how people actually value money and speech.
        bobiny 4y ago
        sure
  - LegitShady 4y ago
    you can see with youtube premium that the value of individual ad views is basically nothing, and getting users to pay a reasonable monthly fee ends up being much more profitable. nobody will do the 'pay per video' thing because its not as profitable as just getting a monthly sub.
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SamBam 4y ago

Clearly they generate revenue, though. What's your proposal for how Twitter makes money? Just double-down on the harvesting of personal information instead?

bobiny 4y ago
Personal info harvesting is at the core of most ad based businesses. Like Google of FB. I’d help people sell things. Like be a platform to sell books, nudes, news etc.