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I wonder how having engineers running errands at the boss's side-hustle benefits TSLA shareholders.

skissane 4y ago
Tesla definitely benefits from its relationship with SpaceX - the Falcon Heavy maiden launch, Bob and Doug riding Teslas to the launch pad - those are the kind of positive brand stories that money can’t buy. Nobody knows how Twitter under Musk will turn out. Some critics predict it will soon be a far right swamp no advertiser will want to have anything to do with. If they are right, Tesla’s association with Twitter stands to do it great harm. But if they are wrong, Tesla could benefit from its association with Twitter, much as it does from SpaceX. Musk is (surely) telling Tesla’s board and execs that having just paid billions for a firm, he isn’t about to alienate all its customers (the advertisers) - and the Tesla team is going to take his word for it.
- jh0486 4y ago
  We always seem to forget that the majority of US citizens identify as conservative or moderate. Personally, I'm middle-left and found the endless hordes of far-left mobsters to be as equally unappealing. It appears the country is finally trending back to moderate after the dumpster fire that was the last 7 years. Will companies continue to be hyper focused on political stances now that they're missing earnings? I think companies will leave the virtue signaling to the internet and get back thinking about how to maximize revenue. If people use the platform, and companies get click-through, I think they will advertise on it. Conservative Moderate Liberal U.S. adults 36 37 25
  - mijamo 4y ago
    What does "moderate" mean in this context? From an outside perspective both Biden and Obama have felt extremely moderate for instance.
    - skissane 4y ago
      Political labels only have meaning in the context of a given time and place. What’s moderate in one place and time can be extreme in another. What’s right-wing at one place and time can be left-wing at another. (And in both cases, the converse is also true.) Obviously the person you are replying to meant those terms in a contemporary US-centric context - a “moderate” in the US is likely to be a fair way to the “right” by the standards of some countries, and a fair way to the “left” by the standards of others.
    - coffeeblack 4y ago
      Both Obama and Biden (and Bush) delivered a couple of wars to the military industrial complex to make trillions of dollars on. If you don’t deliver wars, the media will punish you. That’s what I learned from the past 20 years of U.S. politics.
      - pjc50 4y ago
        The public definitely wanted a war after 9/11. Being anti-war could get you cancelled. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Chicks_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Chicks_controversy
        coffeeblack 4y ago
        Just like today if you advocated for peace in Ukraine.
        pjc50 4y ago
        Advocating for surrender in Ukraine will, because that will get a lot of civilians killed, but withdrawal of the aggressor won't. And yes, this is consistent, the US should never have fabricated its pretexts for the Iraq war.
        coffeeblack 4y ago
        Or publicly stated that it “would depend” on how much the U.S. will help Ukraine. Only a week or so before the Russian invasion. Reminded me of the statement that “the U.S. wouldn’t intervene if Iraq invaded Kuwait” 30 years ago. Again only weeks before the invasion that then gave the reason for the first invasion of Iraq by the U.S. Amazing how often these same tactics work and reliably lead to big sales for the military industrial complex.
rasz 4y ago
Leveraged side hustle. I bet Tesla charged Twitter consulting fee. This is how you extract value from leveraged takeover.

Tesla definitely benefits from its relationship with SpaceX - the Falcon Heavy maiden launch, Bob and Doug riding Teslas to the launch pad - those are the kind of positive brand stories that money can’t buy. Nobody knows how Twitter under Musk will turn out. Some critics predict it will soon be a far right swamp no advertiser will want to have anything to do with. If they are right, Tesla’s association with Twitter stands to do it great harm. But if they are wrong, Tesla could benefit from its association with Twitter, much as it does from SpaceX. Musk is (surely) telling Tesla’s board and execs that having just paid billions for a firm, he isn’t about to alienate all its customers (the advertisers) - and the Tesla team is going to take his word for it.

jh0486 4y ago
We always seem to forget that the majority of US citizens identify as conservative or moderate. Personally, I'm middle-left and found the endless hordes of far-left mobsters to be as equally unappealing. It appears the country is finally trending back to moderate after the dumpster fire that was the last 7 years. Will companies continue to be hyper focused on political stances now that they're missing earnings? I think companies will leave the virtue signaling to the internet and get back thinking about how to maximize revenue. If people use the platform, and companies get click-through, I think they will advertise on it. Conservative Moderate Liberal U.S. adults 36 37 25
- mijamo 4y ago
  What does "moderate" mean in this context? From an outside perspective both Biden and Obama have felt extremely moderate for instance.
  - skissane 4y ago
    Political labels only have meaning in the context of a given time and place. What’s moderate in one place and time can be extreme in another. What’s right-wing at one place and time can be left-wing at another. (And in both cases, the converse is also true.) Obviously the person you are replying to meant those terms in a contemporary US-centric context - a “moderate” in the US is likely to be a fair way to the “right” by the standards of some countries, and a fair way to the “left” by the standards of others.
  - coffeeblack 4y ago
    Both Obama and Biden (and Bush) delivered a couple of wars to the military industrial complex to make trillions of dollars on. If you don’t deliver wars, the media will punish you. That’s what I learned from the past 20 years of U.S. politics.
    - pjc50 4y ago
      The public definitely wanted a war after 9/11. Being anti-war could get you cancelled. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Chicks_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixie_Chicks_controversy
      - coffeeblack 4y ago
        Just like today if you advocated for peace in Ukraine.
        pjc50 4y ago
        Advocating for surrender in Ukraine will, because that will get a lot of civilians killed, but withdrawal of the aggressor won't. And yes, this is consistent, the US should never have fabricated its pretexts for the Iraq war.
        coffeeblack 4y ago
        Or publicly stated that it “would depend” on how much the U.S. will help Ukraine. Only a week or so before the Russian invasion. Reminded me of the statement that “the U.S. wouldn’t intervene if Iraq invaded Kuwait” 30 years ago. Again only weeks before the invasion that then gave the reason for the first invasion of Iraq by the U.S. Amazing how often these same tactics work and reliably lead to big sales for the military industrial complex.

rasz 4y ago

Leveraged side hustle. I bet Tesla charged Twitter consulting fee. This is how you extract value from leveraged takeover.