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It’s good UX - presumably most users want to turn off WiFi/bluetooth temporarily when using these buttons and this saves you from forgetting to turn it back on.

It’s good UX - presumably most users want to turn off WiFi/bluetooth temporarily when using these buttons and this saves you from forgetting to turn it back on. I was delighted when they changed. I agree it’d be nice to have a choice for how it works on your device, but current behavior would still be a good default.

walterbell 4y ago
> and this saves you from forgetting to turn it back on Apple has since extended this helpful "innovation" to the power button, which no longer turns off iPhones, requiring a faraday bag to block WiFi/BT/UWB radios from communicating while iPhone is "powered off".
- Ferrotin 4y ago
  Do you mean to say that “slide to power off” leaves Wi-Fi radios active?
  - walterbell 4y ago
    https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-find-your-iphone-when-it-is-powered-off/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... > With iOS 15, your iPhone is still traceable through the Find My network even when the device is powered off. It seems that with iOS 15, the phone is not really fully ‘powered off’, it stays in a low-power state and acts like an AirTag, allowing any nearby iOS device to pick up the Bluetooth signal and send back its location.
    - Ferrotin 4y ago
      Oh my. Thanks.
    - radicality 4y ago
      Afaik if you care about that, you should be able to fully turn off Find My integration? The idea does have some benefit though. For example, if you enable “Express Transit” for Apple Pay and your phone runs out of battery, you still will be able to tap-to-pay for a subway / bus ride home. The payment NFC subsystem is also separate and has its own battery reserve.
      - walterbell 4y ago
        Apple could better describe the action that will be performed, e.g. "Slide to Suspend".
        NLPlatypus 4y ago
        Try to turn off your iPhone. It says right on the screen it will be broadcasting its location even when it’s off.
        walterbell 4y ago
        > broadcasting.. when it's off. So, not off then.

walterbell 4y ago

> and this saves you from forgetting to turn it back on Apple has since extended this helpful "innovation" to the power button, which no longer turns off iPhones, requiring a faraday bag to block WiFi/BT/UWB radios from communicating while iPhone is "powered off".

Ferrotin 4y ago
Do you mean to say that “slide to power off” leaves Wi-Fi radios active?
- walterbell 4y ago
  https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-find-your-iphone-when-it-is-powered-off/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/07/ios-15-find-my-network-can-fi... > With iOS 15, your iPhone is still traceable through the Find My network even when the device is powered off. It seems that with iOS 15, the phone is not really fully ‘powered off’, it stays in a low-power state and acts like an AirTag, allowing any nearby iOS device to pick up the Bluetooth signal and send back its location.
  - Ferrotin 4y ago
    Oh my. Thanks.
  - radicality 4y ago
    Afaik if you care about that, you should be able to fully turn off Find My integration? The idea does have some benefit though. For example, if you enable “Express Transit” for Apple Pay and your phone runs out of battery, you still will be able to tap-to-pay for a subway / bus ride home. The payment NFC subsystem is also separate and has its own battery reserve.
    - walterbell 4y ago
      Apple could better describe the action that will be performed, e.g. "Slide to Suspend".
      - NLPlatypus 4y ago
        Try to turn off your iPhone. It says right on the screen it will be broadcasting its location even when it’s off.
        walterbell 4y ago
        > broadcasting.. when it's off. So, not off then.