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"Microsoft tells Windows Central that the Windows Dev Kit 2023 is exclusive to Windows 11, with no official support for running other operating systems such as

"Microsoft tells Windows Central that the Windows Dev Kit 2023 is exclusive to Windows 11, with no official support for running other operating systems such as Linux or even Windows 10 on ARM. The product is designed for developers looking to optimize their apps for ARM on top of Windows 11."

xd1936 4y ago
The word _official_ is italicized[1], and the words "the product is _designed for_" means there may be hope that this is possible. 1. https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/project-volterra-launches-today-as-the-windows-dev-kit-2023-with-32gb-ram-and-costs-less-than-a-mac-mini https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/proj...
- my123 4y ago
  UEFI Secure Boot can be disabled or put in a custom configuration on all arm64 Windows devices, including Windows Dev Kit 2023.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    And people said they wouldn't help. This is intended for us!
gw99 4y ago
Realistically you have to ask how many people is that now? I have never seen an ARM windows machine in the wild. In fact I barely even see any windows 11 machines.
- zeusk 4y ago
  Surface Pro X had some traction, but they share the chassis with Surface Pro 7 and 8 so you wouldn't be able to tell even if you passed by one.
  - Funnyduck99 4y ago
    No the 7 is different, but I believe the 8 and 9 look the same
    - zeusk 4y ago
      Ah my bad, I meant 8 and 9.
paxys 4y ago
That doesn't really mean anything. No laptop released by Microsoft or most of its OEMs officially supports Linux. I'd wager this one will be running some ARM distro within 5 minutes of the first developer getting their hands on it.
- schaefer 4y ago
  > No laptop released by Microsoft or most of its OEMs officially supports Linux. I disagree that "Most OEMs don't officially support Linux". Lenovo supports Linux on 17 laptops released in 2022 alone [1]. Dell also has a similar effort, with Linux supported on the 2022 XPS 13 Plus [2] among others. HP has its DevOne[3] But at the moment, I don't know of an modern, high performance ARM laptop with official Linux support. The closest thing I know of is the Nvidia Jetson AGX Orin Dev kit by NVIDIA[4]. [1] https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd031426-linux-for-personal-systems https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd031426-linux-fo... [2] https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops?q=&limit=20&release=22.04+LTS https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops?q=&limit=20&release=22.... [3] https://hpdevone.com/ https://hpdevone.com/ [4] https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/autonomous-machines/embedded-systems/jetson-orin/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/autonomous-machines/embedded-sy...
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xd1936 4y ago

The word _official_ is italicized[1], and the words "the product is _designed for_" means there may be hope that this is possible. 1. https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/project-volterra-launches-today-as-the-windows-dev-kit-2023-with-32gb-ram-and-costs-less-than-a-mac-mini https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/proj...

my123 4y ago
UEFI Secure Boot can be disabled or put in a custom configuration on all arm64 Windows devices, including Windows Dev Kit 2023.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  And people said they wouldn't help. This is intended for us!

gw99 4y ago

Realistically you have to ask how many people is that now? I have never seen an ARM windows machine in the wild. In fact I barely even see any windows 11 machines.

zeusk 4y ago
Surface Pro X had some traction, but they share the chassis with Surface Pro 7 and 8 so you wouldn't be able to tell even if you passed by one.
- Funnyduck99 4y ago
  No the 7 is different, but I believe the 8 and 9 look the same
  - zeusk 4y ago
    Ah my bad, I meant 8 and 9.

paxys 4y ago

That doesn't really mean anything. No laptop released by Microsoft or most of its OEMs officially supports Linux. I'd wager this one will be running some ARM distro within 5 minutes of the first developer getting their hands on it.

schaefer 4y ago
> No laptop released by Microsoft or most of its OEMs officially supports Linux. I disagree that "Most OEMs don't officially support Linux". Lenovo supports Linux on 17 laptops released in 2022 alone [1]. Dell also has a similar effort, with Linux supported on the 2022 XPS 13 Plus [2] among others. HP has its DevOne[3] But at the moment, I don't know of an modern, high performance ARM laptop with official Linux support. The closest thing I know of is the Nvidia Jetson AGX Orin Dev kit by NVIDIA[4]. [1] https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd031426-linux-for-personal-systems https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd031426-linux-fo... [2] https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops?q=&limit=20&release=22.04+LTS https://ubuntu.com/certified/laptops?q=&limit=20&release=22.... [3] https://hpdevone.com/ https://hpdevone.com/ [4] https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/autonomous-machines/embedded-systems/jetson-orin/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/autonomous-machines/embedded-sy...

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