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Here's the actual report: https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/reports/circular-claims-fall-flat-again/ https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/reports/circular-claims-fall-.

Here's the actual report: https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/reports/circular-claims-fall-flat-again/ https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/reports/circular-claims-fall-... Why can't journalists ever link to their sources?

guywithabike 4y ago
News sites have long pushed for regulations that would require companies like Google and Facebook to pay for excerpting and linking news articles, so part of me wonders if this is an intentional policy to avoid being held liable for paying, in turn, their sources of information should those regulations ever come to pass. Deeply funny to me, honestly.
- culi 4y ago
  Interesting hypothesis but I doubt an org like Greenpeace would complain about coverage. Same with a lot of research published in open access journals
  - tomjakubowski 4y ago
    I think Guywithabike is saying that phys.org doesn't want to have to pay Greenpeace for citing them, should that future come to pass of Google paying news sources for snippets.
PragmaticPulp 4y ago
Thank you, this is enormously helpful for having some context to add to discussions. I've talked to a lot of people in recent years who have seen these headlines and concluded that all recycling, including aluminum and paper products, is actually a lie. We really need more clarity around the recycling situation so people stop drawing their only conclusions from random headlines.
- Tagbert 4y ago
  My understanding is that aluminum is actually recycled at a pretty high rate. Metal stock has more value to begin with and the process of remelting do not degrade the metal the way that plastics are.
  - kixiQu 4y ago
    Also glass! This is an industry source because I'm not finding the county one I'd learned from earlier: https://www.gpi.org/glass-recycling-facts https://www.gpi.org/glass-recycling-facts
TheDesolate0 4y ago
trap_goes_hot 4y ago
To be fair, the article might have been written before that URL was up, and/or the writer received the material in a different way.

guywithabike 4y ago

News sites have long pushed for regulations that would require companies like Google and Facebook to pay for excerpting and linking news articles, so part of me wonders if this is an intentional policy to avoid being held liable for paying, in turn, their sources of information should those regulations ever come to pass. Deeply funny to me, honestly.

culi 4y ago
Interesting hypothesis but I doubt an org like Greenpeace would complain about coverage. Same with a lot of research published in open access journals
- tomjakubowski 4y ago
  I think Guywithabike is saying that phys.org doesn't want to have to pay Greenpeace for citing them, should that future come to pass of Google paying news sources for snippets.

PragmaticPulp 4y ago

Thank you, this is enormously helpful for having some context to add to discussions. I've talked to a lot of people in recent years who have seen these headlines and concluded that all recycling, including aluminum and paper products, is actually a lie. We really need more clarity around the recycling situation so people stop drawing their only conclusions from random headlines.

Tagbert 4y ago
My understanding is that aluminum is actually recycled at a pretty high rate. Metal stock has more value to begin with and the process of remelting do not degrade the metal the way that plastics are.
- kixiQu 4y ago
  Also glass! This is an industry source because I'm not finding the county one I'd learned from earlier: https://www.gpi.org/glass-recycling-facts https://www.gpi.org/glass-recycling-facts

TheDesolate0 4y ago

trap_goes_hot 4y ago

To be fair, the article might have been written before that URL was up, and/or the writer received the material in a different way.